|All things being equal does running give the same||cyclejim|
Oct 5, 2002 9:58 AM
|cardio benefit that cycling does? In other words, cycling for 2 hrs with a 150 avg heart rate is exactly the same as running for 2 hrs with a 150 avg heart rate, as far as the cardio benefits.
|re: All things being equal does running give the same||Akirasho|
Oct 5, 2002 10:18 AM
|... there's probably no clear and easy answer here...
Both disciplines recruit different muscle groups and use them in different ways despite similar cardiac output... indeed, even in the cycling world, there is clinical evidence that a recumbent position is better for aerobic and cardiac therapies... Also note, that both disciplines may produce intervals of high cardiac output that still fall within the parameters of your average... but may result in profound physiological differences...
I guess, what I'm trying to say is... how can all things be equal?
Remain In Light.
Be the bike.
|re: All things being equal does running give the same||divve|
Oct 5, 2002 10:25 AM
|Running normally requires about 4 times the energy expenditure per mile compared to cycling.|
|Actually, the ratio is close to 3X, but so what?||Kerry|
Oct 5, 2002 3:56 PM
|The guy asked about HR being constant and cario benefits. What does calories per mile have to do with it? At comparable HRs, both exercises will be expending comparable calories per hour.|
|Actually, the ratio is close to 3X, but so what?||divve|
Oct 5, 2002 5:31 PM
|He started out by asking the cardio benefit of running versus cycling. The calories per mile shows that running is physically more intensive for the 2 hour period in his example. Meaning, that you can't directly compare heart rates...assuming you're actually running and not moving like a slug.|
|You're confusing the issue...||Wayne|
Oct 7, 2002 4:01 AM
|by introducing irrelevant variables. The initial question was asked regarding running vs. cycling at equivalent HR's. And as Kerry stated if the HR is approximately the same over the same period of time (2 hours) you will burn approximately the same amount of calories and probably stress the cardiovascular system about the same. Of course per mile running is more energetically demanding but that's irrelevant to the initial question.|
|re: All things being equal does running give the same||Fignons_ponytail|
Oct 6, 2002 5:20 AM
|Yeah, maybe running at max hr versus cycling in zone 1. Put a little thought into this and it should become clear. People often assume running is harder because you just can't coast during a 6 mile run, and running at a very low intensity feels so slow that most people won't stay at that low intensity and pick it up a bit. Conversely, Mr/Ms Weekend Warrior can go tick off a 30 mile ride with no problem. It just may take them 4 hours to do it!
The general consensus actually tends towards cycling burning more calories at a given heart rate than running. Larger muscle groups recruited. Thus, you get the same aerobic/cardio benefit and more calories burned. Again, though, that is at equal intensities.
|re: All things being equal does running give the same||zray61|
Oct 5, 2002 1:02 PM
|Running is more of an impact sport as far as the knees are
concerned. A lot of runners as they get older change over to cycling because they start experiencing problems with their knees. There is more than cardio to consider when selecting a sport. I always love swimming but after the doctor removed one skin cancer I thought it might be best to diversify my time. There is an up and down side to every
Oct 5, 2002 7:41 PM
|There is a law of specificity in the field of competitive athletics. There is more to training then getting your heart rate to a certain value. Sure, you are better off running (with no biking) for a month than sitting on your couch, but if you want to be able to ride fast for a long time you have to ride your bike. Even slow riding builds new capilaries and other good stuff exactly where you need it for riding. Keep in mind that being stressed at work or giving a speech can get your heart rate well into the training zone. Will two hours of stress be the same benefit as two hours of LSD training?|| |