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How do you justify it?(20 posts)

How do you justify it?Frith
Oct 4, 2002 11:27 AM
I'm buying a new bike this winter. Even though I know I can confortably afford it, I have an odd sense of guilt about spending that kind of money on a bike when it could just as easily go towards paying off my student loans or something responsible like that.
Here's my plan... Whatever I end up spending on the bike, I'm not going buy it until I've saved up double it's cost. So half the savings for a bike half the savings for something slightly more sensible.
Am I the only one who finds it hard to justify these kind of purchases? Do you guys ever feel any guilt, be it self-imposed or spouse-imposed:)

oh btw... I'm not going to let any of this stop me from feeling like a little kid at Christmas the day I pick up my shiny new toy.
re: How do you justify it?PaulCL
Oct 4, 2002 11:32 AM
I've felt your same guilt. I hem and haw over every substantial purchase. Of course, my wife never has any buyers guilt, never hems and haws, never hesitates to buy exactly what she wants. Screw it! Go buy it now and enjoy!!
re: How do you justify it?MXL02
Oct 4, 2002 11:40 AM
> Do you guys ever feel any guilt, be it self-imposed or spouse-imposed:)

No- whenever my wife starts to whine I remind her that her hobbies (collecting jewelry, shoes, and redecorating our house) cost much more than mine. Additionally, I have friends that collect boats, planes, sports cars, and (ahem) women. My vice seems much tamer in relation to those. Plus I get in great shape and actually might live a few years longer.
Spending part of one's disposable income on such a healthy, positive pasttime should never, IMHO, ever cause guilt. If, however, you start to buy bikes instead of food, well, maybe then you have a problem.
Compare it to the cost of a boat ...Humma Hah
Oct 4, 2002 11:43 AM
Figure you buy some speedboat, maybe $30 grand, plus trailer. If you don't live on the water, you have to drive to the water, either towing the boat or paying some marina to dock it for you. You probably only get to use it maybe 4 weekends a year, for maybe 12 miles per weekend, and during the periods when it is running you get about 5 mpg if you're LUCKY. Now figure up your cost in $ per mile, over a 5-year period before you get smart and sell the boat, probably for half what you paid for it.

Compared to boats, even AIRPLANES look reasonable! Bicycles are downright CHEAP.

But my wife trys to make me feel guilty for buying a new toy for my 31-year-old cruiser, couldn't understand why I felt I needed a roadbike (never mind the fact that the frame I bought is a '74), and will probably give me heck next weekend for going up to Trexlertown to buy a bunch of flea-market ... I mean "vintage" ... parts for it.
Who needs justification? I work, therefore I buy. (nm)onespeed
Oct 4, 2002 11:48 AM
Ditto - You can justify anything if you really need to (nm)B2
Oct 4, 2002 3:14 PM
Call it Health Care Now its Cheap (nm)flying
Oct 4, 2002 12:02 PM
I live in Canada that one doesn't quite work. (nm)Frith
Oct 4, 2002 12:16 PM
re: How do you justify it?Barton
Oct 4, 2002 12:18 PM
Better to indulge and enjoy,than compromise and regret.
re: How do you justify it?mickey-mac
Oct 4, 2002 12:21 PM
I don't feel guilty because of trade-offs I make on bike spending. I spent a lot of money on a new bike and related gear in 2001 but am still driving a 9 year old car with about 113,000 miles on it. The fact that my wife seems to get a new car every 2-3 years means that I don't suffer much spouse-imposed guilt.
Guilt? Naaaaah.Gregory Taylor
Oct 4, 2002 12:36 PM
I've got this bike habit thing completely under control. Yup. Nothing to feel guilty about, at all. Physical exercise is healthy, for goodness sake. It's good for you! No problems here. I only have five bikes -- I know guys with way more than me. And the kid really didn't need new school shoes anyway...ooh, look at the pretty, shiny bike parts....where's my credit card?
Guilt free purchase!MasterBlaster
Oct 4, 2002 2:23 PM
Look at your purchase as a long term investment of well-being and health benefits of excercise. A healthy body with no money is a happier being than an overweight being with
money in the bank!;)
re: How do you justify it?aliensporebomb
Oct 4, 2002 3:23 PM
GUILT?

My wife was the one who started me back on the biking thing
to get me healthy and in shape again.

She bought me the mountain bike four years ago,
encouraged me to get my roadie ride,
and just got me a commuter bike two weeks ago.

We got her an expensive bike this past summer as well
(in the $1500 range).

We like expensive bikes, computer and I'm a musician some
of the time so for me expensive gear too. Sigh.

No real guilt, just have to pay debt off.

Do it - you only live once.
Very, very easily...OffTheBack
Oct 4, 2002 3:48 PM
I think I spent about $1300 on my Eisentraut back in 1989. I had it for ten years, then gave the frame to a buddy for his wife and sold the parts for about $300. That's a net cost of $100 per year. Much cheaper than a health club, or cable TV, or a daily newspaper, or even my Starbucks habit. And, compare the memories - I raced on that bike, did centuries on it, did rides with my father - some of the best times I've ever had. Not to mention the health benefits. That was the best grand I've ever spent, by far.
Easy!grzy
Oct 4, 2002 4:10 PM
If you die with any money in the bank then it means you screwed up and worked harder than you had too. You want to go out owing everyone and stiff them for the drinks! ;-)

Man, the guilt will kill you. What if you save up twice the money, buy your dream bike, then realize you're not worthy? That guilt will be with you for the rest of your pathetic life and you'll never be able to get away from the fact that there probably is a more deserving kid in India somewhere. ;-) Get a grip man!! Life is for living. It's not that it's that short it's just that you're dead for sooooo long. Buy the bike you want and realize that unless you're wealthy it means that you don't get to do something else, so you really are paying in more ways than one. If it means that much to you then it's worth it. If you really have a hard time justifying it then maybe it doesn't mean as much to you as you'd like it to. Hey I'd like to have a new Porsche, but living in my own house is more important to me. I'd feel a bit guilty if I had to park the Porsche in front of my rented mobile home, but that's just me. I'm sure people do it and sleep just fine at night.

So would the other half of the savings for "something more sensible" be for paying off your loans or just more consumption?
ah ... buyer's remorsebianchi boy
Oct 4, 2002 6:54 PM
A very common ailment. Trust me, you won't feel guilty after you've ridden it a few months or a year -- you'll be plotting how to buy the next one.

In my case, I justified my new bike because I had ridden my old one for 16 years and it was too big and heavy. My last vehicle was a Toyota pickup I bought used and drove for 7 years. I've had my Ford Ranger for 5 years and will probably drive it for at least 5 more... but I might buy a few more bikes during that period.
re: How do you justify it?Bike Bum
Oct 4, 2002 9:29 PM
A few years ago I was thinking about getting a new bike, and was struggling with the guilt like you. While out on my Saturday morning ride with buddies, I turned to a wise sage of a friend who was straddling his new mount that he had purchased a month before and I asked him if he too felt guilt when he bought his beauty....The wise words that came from his mouth were words that I live by to this day, two bikes later....."Yea, but it goes away...."
....Go for it and ride often....
re: How do you justify it?koala
Oct 5, 2002 3:02 AM
Easy.. my doc said if I didnt start excersizing again I was headed for heart disease and diabetes. Got back on the bike, shed 20 lbs and got bloodwork back to where it belongs in several months. I feel great too. Best money I ever spent on myself. Ride safe.

Dennis
No guilt...well, maybe, sometimes...DINOSAUR
Oct 5, 2002 9:21 AM
I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I'm 60, retired, live on a fixed income and have a wife and teenage daughter to support. I took a 25% cut in pay when I retired. I did plop out a tidy sum of money for my new bike (now I have two). If I had purchased a bike and it stayed hanging in my garage gathering dust I would feel guilty. But I ride it just about every day and it's worth every single penny. We did reach an agreement on a budget, I'm allowed to spend X amount of money for bike related purchases per month. Before I was going crazy and spending a couple hundred dollars a month over the internet. Also look at your bike as a lifetime investment. If you pick your frame correctly and are sized right, it should last indefinitely. As long as you don't go in over your head and into debt I think you are O.K. But if the spending is not rational, then start a bike fund and wait. You said that you can afford it, so maybe you answered your own question. My guilt come with the time I spend riding. We all have the same thoughts. You have to be slightly self-centered to be a cyclist, otherwise you couldn't put in those long training hours that might be put to another use (like yard work and maintenance for me). Look as cycling as something you can do your whole life, you are just starting, you lucky dog....if you can afford it and the only thing holding you back is guilt, then you are in a place we all go once and awhile, you are just being logical.....buy it an ride the cra* out of it and put your money to good use.....(that's what I do)...
Dino
My mind is a ghetto- no introspection allowed here. (nm)Crankist
Oct 5, 2002 9:40 AM