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Follow up to Relief cream question...(11 posts)

Follow up to Relief cream question...MVN
Oct 3, 2002 8:24 PM
Ok, I'm going to wear my new Nalini's Sat. (once it stops raining here in NE La.). That means I don't have time to get the Assos cream. I have a can of Bag Balm, but I've heard that it's not the best thing to use with a synthetic chamois (not sure if that's actually true, however) and I'm really not crazy about the way it feels. Any recommendations for something to use until I can get the Assos cream? I've read posts in which people talked about using Noxzema and other things, but I don't really have a clue as to what to use. I've planned a long ride Sat. and I want something that will make it as comfortable as possible. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks.
re: Follow up to Relief cream question...flying
Oct 3, 2002 9:14 PM
I have used bag balm many times with the Nalinis no problems.
They are not my fav bibs though ;-)
But it has not hurt the synthetic chamois
Go heavy with Lubriderm...Lone Gunman
Oct 4, 2002 4:39 AM
It is the closest thing I have used to chamois butter or Nalini cream
I don't get it....filtersweep
Oct 4, 2002 5:15 AM
"I just got my Lotto bibs and the tag recommended using the Nalini Relief cream for the chamois. I want them to last a good long time. What (if anything) do you Nalini-wearers use?"

OK- just because the tag recomends using something doesn't mean that it is necessary... first of all, I'd be very careful about using anything with petroleum in it- not only does it block pores of your skin, but it is difficult to wash out, and can block the "pores" of the chamois as well.

I highly doubt a cream will enhance the life of your shorts. We are beyond using leather chamois that actually require treatment. I've never applied cream to a pad, and if you've ever used Assos, you will know the danger of getting the cream anywhere near your nether regions. If you want to preserve your shorts, use a mild detergent, use gentle wash cycle, cold water, and line dry.

Do you really need to use a cream? Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never had a problem with "chaffing" on my road bike. I have a horrible Body Geometry cutaway saddle on my mtn bike that I need to replace- the edges of the cutout dig into my flesh, but as an example, I sat 4 hrs on my road bike last Saturday on an SLR saddle without a hint of a problem or discomfort. Occasionally my padded bib tights (Castelli) will cause a bit of a problem until they "settle" since the entire leg of the tights can wiggle/pull the pad area around- but that is about the extent of it.

Am I missing some major concern here?

I also have a pair of Nalinis... for a relatively low-tech pad, they are the most comfortable bibs I own- I actually like them better than my Castellis PY2Ks or Santini CXs... two years, including a spill that shredded my hip (bibs were fine) and the only 'wear' is discoloration from the saddle. They are a brillian design with different weight Lycra on different panels... thick where I need it, thin where I don't (to control stretch).
Have you tried mayonaise...nothing quite like it... nmdivve
Oct 4, 2002 6:24 AM
Skippy peanut butter-but don't use the chunky. nmMB1
Oct 4, 2002 7:05 AM
agree and disagreeDaveG
Oct 4, 2002 8:59 AM
I agree that a chamois cream is not going to prolong the life of a synthetic chamois. The cream is there to protect your skin from chafing. Whether you need to use it or not is a personal thing. I'm not sure that the Nalini cream is any better than other products; I don't think there's anything special about the Nalini pad that requires you use their cream. Filtersweep, you seem to arguing that because you don't need a cream that nobody else should either. That's a weak argument in my opinion. I never used the stuff until I hit my late thirties, but now that I'm turning 40 I wouldn't leave my driveway without it. I've had good success with Chamois BuTTR but I've used A&D cream successfully as well. Sacrificing comfort for fashion is not a good idea.
My point:filtersweep
Oct 4, 2002 9:30 AM
I'm not "arguing" that since I don't use it, no one else should. My response was to both this thread and the original thread- this comment seemed odd: "I just got my Lotto bibs and the tag recommended using the Nalini Relief cream for the chamois. I want them to last a good long time. What (if anything) do you Nalini-wearers use?" -Implying that Nalini is any different than any other brand, and almost implying that cream is "required"/recommended to use the shorts in the first place.

I don't care if someone makes a homebrew of peanut butter and WD-40!
Sorry if I was unclear - read new post, maybe it will clarify nmMVN
Oct 4, 2002 9:44 AM
All I'm trying to do is...MVN
Oct 4, 2002 9:41 AM
weed out any possible incorrect information I've gotten and learn the proper way to take care of cycling clothing. My most comfortable pair of bibs currently is a pair of Volers. I don't know if Nalini's or anything else is truly better. I really don't know a lot about these things. I want to learn so I don't possibly make an expensive mistake. I already wash in cold with Woolite and line dry everthing. I did not know that the cream will probably not prolong chamois life - so now I do. Thanks for the info. I'm trying to do rides over 35 miles - hence the reason for asking about chamois cream. Rides up to 30 miles are ok, anything more feels like it might require the use of the stuff. I'm 39 and not as resilient as I used to be, but I'm getting in better shape through a lot of riding. Comfort is an important factor for me. If some of you don't use it or have a need to, then more power to you. I'm just trying to learn from the wealth of information found here. Oh by the way, I thought about the mayo but I couldn't decide which brand. Whaddaya think, Hellman's or Kraft? Which do you like better? And peanut butter, well, my wife only buys crunchy, so I guess that's out. Thanks for the suggestion, though. You guys kill me, lol. Must be a slow day at work, or it's because it's Friday and you are all itching to get out and ride, just like me!! Whatever the case, thanks for the replies (yes even the mayo and peanut butter) and have a good weekend all of you.
The real Relief cream....High Gear
Oct 4, 2002 1:43 PM
I have used this stuff for some time and find it to be the best. It is thicker than most creams and doesn't soak into the chamois as much. This is the link:

http://www.bikejerseys.com/nalrelcream.html