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Decision Time: Trek 5200 or Giant TCR Composite?(25 posts)

Decision Time: Trek 5200 or Giant TCR Composite?kinger
Oct 1, 2002 1:43 PM
Well, I've boiled it down to one of the above. I've ridden each several times (around LBS at least) and generally like the way both of them handle. However, I am leaning a bit towards the Giant. What I'd like to hear is other people's opinion(s) on each. I don't think I could go wrong with either but I like to hear what other folks think before I commit.

Usage summary: I am a 32 year old, 6'1", 170 lb. XC racer that is looking for a new road bike primarily for training purposes. I will likely do a few road races as well just for fun but most of my racing is done on the MTB. I've done a few crits in the past but may even branch out into some more traditional road racing as well. Basically, need a good training bike (read: comfortable) that can also perform very well racing as needed.

Thanks in advance for any input you may have.

-Link
Ahem...Onespeed? Your input is requested here.........nmSpunout
Oct 1, 2002 1:52 PM
Ahem...Onespeed? Your input is requested here.........nmThe Human G-Nome
Oct 1, 2002 2:46 PM
no matter what your decision, stay well clear of the DeRosa Merak. I REPEAT. NO DEROSA MERAK W/RECORD!
Ahem...Onespeed? Your input is requested here........Iwannapodiumgirl
Oct 1, 2002 2:59 PM
How many De Rosa Merak with Record can there be out there?!?!

Anyways, I thought Onespeed has cornered the market on them!
Ahem...Onespeed? Your input is requested here........Spunout
Oct 1, 2002 3:19 PM
Aha! That's why he buys so many: He's got the market cornered and now will profit as RBR feeds his evil plot!
Ahem...Onespeed? Your input is requested here........Iwannapodiumgirl
Oct 1, 2002 4:39 PM
He will then hold the world to ransom, threatening not to let anyone else ride a De Rosa Merak with Record 10 speed unless he received $1million....
Ahem...Onespeed? Your input is requested here........Spunout
Oct 1, 2002 4:59 PM
...because the only bikes available will be compact-frame cookie-cutter bikes with Shimano components...(Spirito's version of Hell)

LMFAO!
Ahem...Onespeed? Your input is requested here........Iwannapodiumgirl
Oct 1, 2002 5:30 PM
Only Shimano equipped bicycles - nnnnnnnoooooooooooooo.
I'd rather walk!
I leave the board for one second... The Merak, w/Record 10.onespeed
Oct 2, 2002 4:54 AM
Gee, great advicefbg111
Oct 1, 2002 3:45 PM
In case you're not aware, new bike advice questions like this get asked frequently, and onespeed is a big advocate of the De Rosa Merak with Record 10 gruppo.

Anyway, I think the advice you'll get most frequently in response to your inquiry is, whichever fits you best. Both of these bikes kick major arse, you probably can't go wrong with either for your stated needs. The Trek frame ridden by USPS and the Giant frame ridden by ONCE. In such a situation, fit should be your deciding factor, period.

The only significant difference I know of between these two (other than compact vs. traditional frame design) is that the Trek composite bike is modular, while the Giant is monocoque (unibody). The Trek frame consists of carbon tubes and joints joined together with epoxy (or something), while the Giant frame is completely one piece. I'm sure there are advantages and disadvantages to each, but my lbs told me that if you damage a part of the Trek, say the down tube for example, you can ship your bike back to Trek and they can fix it. They can heat up the joining epoxy, remove the damaged down tube and replace it with a new one, then re-epoxy it back together. Can't do that with a monocoque frame; however, there may be other advantages to a single piece frame. Perhaps somebody more knowledgeable can verify the above and comment more on it.
been looking at the same two bikes...briko51
Oct 1, 2002 5:14 PM
been looking at the same 2 choices...although i'm not as lucky as you to have ridden the TCR composite...where do you guys live that you get to ride these? i've been to shops in Washington DC AND New Jersey, and each one says they won't be able to get any until November!!!

buuut, i have been able to ride a TCR1 and '03 Trek 5200. i really liked both. i am also 6'1 (almost...183cm) and tested a large TCR with 115mm stem and 58cm Trek with 110mm stem (although i'd prefer a 130mm on there)...

anyway, i could definately feel a nice pick up in speed when i would stand on the Giant on a climb...it accelerated very well. i consider myself and excellent climber so this is definately something i looked for. the trek also accelerated well but felt a lot more comfortable. i have also tested a 5700 (with 110 carbon frame) which was a little more agile on the climbs...but since they no longer make that model, and the 5900 is outta my price range, i'd be settling for the 5200...

so yeah, i guess i'm not really helping much, lol...both seem like great bikes. trek has lifetime warranty, Giant has 5 years. when i look at the Giant TCR composite i just think "damn, that must FLY up the hills"...but sadly, i've yet to ride one so i won't know for a while...

good luck with your choice...
58cm frame isn't too small for you?jtferraro
Oct 1, 2002 5:38 PM
Just curious...how much clearance do you have on the 58cm Trek, between the bottom of the tire and the floor, when you stand over it and lift it up(til' it can't be lifted any further)? What's your inseam?

-Jeff
58cm frame isn't too small for you?kinger
Oct 1, 2002 6:04 PM
I fit into a 58cm Trek as well (6'1", 34" inseam). It just feels better than the 60cm. I'm also seriously considering a medium TCR but I come from MTB so a smaller frame and longer stem seems more 'normal' to me.

FYI - I'm in AZ and there are several shops with the TCR composites in stock.
Ah...I see...like you, I'm also coming from mtb land.jtferraro
Oct 1, 2002 6:22 PM
I just measured my inseam(w/my girlfriends assistance) and she said it was 33". Sound like a 58" frame to you?? When I stand over the 56" and pick it up I have approx. 3" between the bottom of the tire and the floor. I'm only 5'9 and a 1/4 I think but I guess I'm longer below the waist than above. If I went w/the 58" I'm probably go down on the stem size. The LBS told me that I might want to go w/a smaller stem than the stock one. Stock is 120cm on a 58", right?

-Jeff
Stock stem on 58cm '03 5200 is 110mm (nm)briko51
Oct 1, 2002 7:19 PM
Gotcha - thanks. Do you know if the same was true for '02's?nmjtferraro
Oct 1, 2002 7:25 PM
Also, do you know the weight of the '03?jtferraro
Oct 1, 2002 7:27 PM
The '02 was 19.8 lbs., but I'd imagine the new fork shaves some weight off the '03. Is it the Bontrager parts(stem, hbar, seatpost) & SSM steel railed saddle that add the weight?

-Jeff
The two or three bikes I'm considering: Trek 5200, C'dale R2000jtferraro
Oct 1, 2002 6:26 PM
and maybe the Klein QPro(aluminum w/carbon seatstays) & Ultegra.

Are you considering the '02 5200 or '03? I might jump on a '02 5200 I saw Saturday for $1900. Otherwise I'll probably hold out for the '03's.

-Jeff
58cm frame isn't too small for you?Leak
Oct 2, 2002 8:52 AM
Hi,

I've been looking for a shop that actually has the TCR Composite in stock! There's none around here (Northern Cal) right now. Can you share with me the names of some of the shops in AZ? Do they only have complete bikes or do they have framesets in stock too? Thanks!

Lee
Nah, the 58cm is fine for me...briko51
Oct 1, 2002 7:16 PM
nah, the 58 fit me good...i have a 34" inseam...i usually look at top tube length and guide my purchase along that...the 58 has a 57.2 top tube and slap a 130mm stem on there and i feel perfect..maybe could even go down to a 120mm stem. i've ridden a 60 for a short ride...but like someone else said...the 58 just felt better...

for my height...i guess my inseam is a tad shorter...so yeah, i usually don't pay much attention to the seat tube length...
TCR Composites also made in Taiwan? (nm)jtferraro
Oct 1, 2002 7:37 PM
TCR Composites also made in Taiwan? (nm)aliensporebomb
Oct 2, 2002 7:26 AM
Yes. Latest issue of Cycle Sport has a two page article
on the TCR Composites and shows the ONCE Team version.

Little decal on the headtube says "Made in Taiwan".
Thanks (nm)jtferraro
Oct 2, 2002 8:14 AM
Thanks (nm)Lactate Junkie
Oct 3, 2002 3:59 PM
What is your point?
No point, just curious if the carbons were made there, too.(nm)jtferraro
Oct 4, 2002 7:20 AM