RoadBikeReview.com's Forum Archives - General


Archive Home >> General(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 )


A truck, an @sshole, my bike, and me....update for the board(15 posts)

A truck, an @sshole, my bike, and me....update for the boardAhimsa
Sep 30, 2002 6:20 PM
Let me start by saying thanks to those that responded with advice and goodwill regarding my accident with the pickup truck. I appreciate the sentiment and empathy.

We are all vulnerable out there. That is the one thing we share regardless of all the other bullsh!t that seperates us. We all take a risk every time we saddle up. It should not be this way, but it sadly is. We are bound by both our love of the ride and the danger it involves, remember that.

We fight the same battles with poor and inattentive drivers that could take our lives as easily as they can press the accelerator. Our bickering is fine, even normal, but try to bear in mind that we all desire the same basic thing: To ride safely on the roads that are ours to enjoy.

As Spirito says, "All cyclists are family".

The crit mass argument has come up alot lately. I won't post my feelings on the subject here, but maybe instead of dividing ourselves on such important issues we should instead work for a better solution, and actually execute it. At the very least, activists are active. That is more than I can say for many folks.

-Ahem-

Sorry for that. It it's just that it got me thinking that's all. We are not at war with each other. Nor are we really at war with autos. We are at war with ignorance and the lack of respect for others. That is the battle. The battle for safe passage without fear of ignorance and intolerance.

Now then....the update in brief.

After numerous phone calls to agents, officers, etc. it has come out in my favor. Thanks much to the cop that was on the scene. She was a former bike patrol cop and knew the score firsthand. She was very persistent and could not have worked harder.

The insurance company is paying up. The driver has been cited for the accident and listed at fault on the police report.

I am satisfied so far.

Anyway, that's where my head is at.

Cheers!

A.
re: A truck, an @sshole, my bike, and me....update for the boardbrian
Sep 30, 2002 6:34 PM
Congrats!

it is good to finally hear a happy (so far) outcome to the car-meets-bicyclist interraction that we all fear. As a two time victim of the hit and run, i'm happy atleast one motorist isn't getting away with it!

now its time to think about that new bike.... may it be exquisite hand brazed lugged steel! ;)

yearning for that pegoretti pista frame posted a few days ago,
brian
Glad to hear a happy outcome...MXL02
Sep 30, 2002 6:48 PM
and thanks for sharing your positive views. Ride hard, be safe and keep us in the loop.
Cool.mickey-mac
Sep 30, 2002 7:03 PM
I love a happy endings, at least when it comes to cyclists, little kids, and craft brewers. Everyone else be damned. ;-)
Great to hear. Well said also. No further pains? nmrwbadley
Sep 30, 2002 7:05 PM
what a well-spoken post!rollo tommassi
Sep 30, 2002 7:06 PM
and a great update - so glad to hear that you are ok and justice served.

Am particularly struck by your paragraph "at war with ignorance...the battle for safe passage". Very nice!
Congrats... heal well... be safe everyone. nmPdxMark
Sep 30, 2002 7:07 PM
hey bro ....Spirito
Sep 30, 2002 10:17 PM
i dont have much to say other than i hope you heal over quickly and that the frustration from the incident is brief and that it all comes out as best as can be.

thinking of you.

ciao
I hope you are doing well, rant included. . .Mike P
Oct 1, 2002 3:53 AM
I agree with what you are saying with the "we are not at war with" statements but. . . I think it must be taken a little further. While it is true we are not at war with each other and we are not at war with autos, we must consider who "we" are and who is "controlling" the autos.

It is not easy to supress the anger I feel each time I hear of accidents and near accidents as well as each time I am buzzed by a multi-k-lb weapon. The people driving make a conscious decision when they pass or turn in front of a bike. The reason this really pisses me off is I do not understand how someone can care so little for another persons life.

Here is something I think, no scientific poll or anything but I do not think I am far off base with this idea: If a boulder the size of a bike and rider is sitting three feet into the lane, I think the driver will slow or perhaps come to a stop to wait until it is safe before he / she goes around the boulder. Don't want to scratch the paint, you know! But, if there is a cyclist in the road, many drivers (not all or even most) will try to squeeze through. If they scare the 5h1t out of the idiot on the bike, or injure the fool riding in the road, or if they kill the inconsiderate ass slowing thier progress, well "it's not my fault" is the proclamation. "He /she was in the road and I had to choose, either to hit the biker or crash head-on into a family in a car going the other direction." That statement is actually a paraphrase from a statement made by an angry motorist that was published in a local newspaper. There is another more obvious choice, WAIT UNTIL IT'S SAFE TO PASS.

Choosing to hit someone with a vehicle is the same as picking up a gun and blindly firing at will, no offense Will. You might miss, injure or kill, who knows? Don't play with a loaded weapon. I do not understand.

Anyway, ride safe,
Mike

So why is it
I hope you are doing well, rant included. . .clintb
Oct 2, 2002 8:57 AM
Mike P,
You stole the words out of my mouth. Cars are the same, if not worse, than a loaded gun and many people treat them like toys. Very sad how someone will gamble with your life only to shave a few seconds in their drive time. It seems our world has sped up too much and most folks don't know how to slow down.
Nice work, congrats, and enjoy your inevitable new toy! nmfbg111
Oct 1, 2002 4:40 AM
gladSteve_0
Oct 1, 2002 4:55 AM
1. youre satisfied
2. you seem to be doing ok
3. the driver was cited, and
4. You were able to accomplish all this without punition or feeding the sharks.
Succinct words of wisdomAllisonHayes
Oct 1, 2002 5:42 AM
...spoken with compassion, clarity and insight:

b We are all vulnerable out there

i Amen, brother!

b "All cyclists are family".

i Amen, bro!

b We all desire the same basic thing: To ride safely on the roads that are ours to enjoy.

i Amen, sister!

b We fight the same battles with poor and inattentive drivers that could take our lives as easily as they can press the accelerator.

i Amen, sista!

AH (Thank you so much for your insights. I am glad you are OK.)
Glad it worked out relatively easily . . .TrekFurthur
Oct 1, 2002 7:54 AM
now what are you getting?
Sorry to hear . . .Steve98501
Oct 1, 2002 9:18 PM
Didn't know you'd had an accident. It always gets a bit more personal when someone we know, including folks on this BB, are involved in a bike/motor vehicle accident. It's a relief that you seem to be OK. That justice also seems to be happening ain't bad either.

Glad you're OK.

Steve