|Hmmm..What to do.....What to do.... ?||CARBON110|
Sep 29, 2002 7:34 PM
|OK, I weigh 127lbs. I ride all the time since I work for myself and where I live you can ride all year. In Jan. when zipp 303 2002 series was avaiable I got a set for $900. I raced them in the spring and I love them. They fell apart in April after about ... maybe 1500 miles on them. My shop gave the extra pair they had in the shop since I had about 5 more races that month and they like me... alot! Zipp gave them ( a high end bike shop ) a VERY hard timeand requested the receit and to speak with the owner of the shop, who is a good friend of mine. They evenually replaced them. That was April. Its now Sept. and my second set has fallen apart after .. maybe 2500-3000 miles. I did not ride them in the rain or bad conditions or even rough roads. I road them every week but not every ride. WTF... now I am requesting a pair of 404's to replace my 303's since the heating of the rim is different for the 404's. They are going to send me Brand new pair of 303's if I dont get the 404's. Who knows when. WTF! I LOVE these whees but, holy $hit 900 bucks and they can last even half the season.....so anyone have a similar experience??????? Any one tried HED ALPS?|
|Whereas my $200 wheelset has gone 5 years/10,000 miles...||cory|
Sep 29, 2002 8:53 PM
|I know, I know, they're not even remotely comparable. But sometimes I'm SO GLAD I decided just to go ride for fun....
I don't have a single suggestion for you (except "Holy ****!"), but let us know how it turns out. I'd be plenty p!ssed, too.
|What kind of wheels are they?||Allen az|
Sep 29, 2002 9:48 PM
|I went out for an evening group ride about a week ago...hit a rock and dented my rim pretty bad. I need some cheap (but decent) wheels fast! (I'm a student with not a lot of $$$ right now).
|No money? 105 hubs laced to Open Pros...||I Love Shimano|
Sep 30, 2002 1:59 AM
|mine have been bombproof. Philippine roads are very unforgiving, but my wheels eat up the potholes for breakfast! (36 spoke, 3 cross lacing)|
|please describe problem...||str8dum1|
Sep 30, 2002 8:06 AM
|by falling apart what do u mean? splitting at the seam in the rim, nipples bulging and cracking the rim?|
|re: Hmmm..What to do.....What to do.... ?||MXL02|
Sep 30, 2002 9:55 AM
|I have zero experience with: a) zipp 303's, b)racing, or 3)being 127lbs. So why am I responding? Well, in my search for a light wheelset to be used only on a fast day with the local group of hammerheads, I asked my LBS owner (also a racer) about Zipp 303's and he believed the rims were not stable enough for racing, something about lateral instability or whatever, anyway, he thought they would do just as you have described. He recommends Ksyrium ssl or 404's, or (of course) his own hand-built wheelset which he claims is the fastest of all. Anyway...hope this helps.|
|UPDATE...... and I am impressed :)||CARBON110|
Sep 30, 2002 1:56 PM
|well...the shop called Zipp up and explained the situation. The wheels have several cracks in the carbon from bulging nipples and the tire tube pushing the carbo. Having owned, mavic carbones and corima wheels I think zipp carbon is the best. But, your friend is right. Zipp openly stated that the rim is not heat treated and is soft. Recently Cane Creek used some 303 rims on a few test wheels and had similar probems. So, they offered me my $$ money back ( cha ching ) or some new 404's. I have a week to think it over. I am trying to find some info on the bike shows to see if any wheels like the 303's are going to come about this winter or spring. I like the 38 mm dish since anything more and I getblown all over the place on windy days, although the 404s look nice. Str8dum1 I hope you had a good season...
Perhaps some white industry hubs/ zipp carbon hubs on some kind of rim would be a good strt. Try some bladed spoke for tiffness ( not very aero )and a 44 mm depth would be good. Maybe I'll call John Cobb up and see if OVAL is into wheels LOL! Thanks for listening guys