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Akira, there's a new Kuota website(11 posts)

Akira, there's a new Kuota websitesn69
Sep 29, 2002 3:48 PM

It looks like they're working up an international, user-friendly version of the site, and they've got two new frames.

re: ... there's still room on the Platinum card...Akirasho
Sep 29, 2002 3:56 PM
... I don't know whether to thank you or curse you!

We abide.

Remain In Light.

Be the bike.
How about we lust together...sn69
Sep 29, 2002 4:09 PM
We are busy "recovering" from Isidore (about 3" of flooding in the casa), and anxiously awaiting Lili's potential arrival in the Crescent City. In any case, the insurance payout might be large enough to offset the cost of one of these beauties.

Now, that poses this question. Would it be wrong to down-size one and build it up as a slack-angled tri bike? I've cross-compared their geometry with a P2K, and it's not too far removed in certain key aspects. I've got long femurs, and I think their 57 with a 100mm +6 WCS stem, Thompson seatpost with the saddle slid relatively forward, Syntace 0-drop Stratos bullhorns, and medium (vice my usual large) C2s would work nicely in a relaxed tri-posit. That should equate to a 74-75 STA. I don't think handling would be that adversely affected. I've ridden that set up before on a 60cm 'Dale R700, and it worked well for me. Still, it'd be a gamble.

Thus the second question. If I were to do this, should I stick with the tried and true Shimano bar-ends, or should I venture forth into the hitherto unexplored lands of Record and Campy's bar ends? much time to ponder. Hmmm, if Lili strengthens and hits NOLA and wipes out the house for good, I could easily sneak a Ksano into the "rebuild our lives" adventure.....

Sorry to hear about the flooding...Akirasho
Sep 29, 2002 4:44 PM
... even this far north, we got a healthy dose of the rain shield (made up in total the rain deficit (we were officially under a drought) for the year, in two days)... still, if you've got good insurance...

I've done similar... with an old R2.8 frame... and while the geometry isn't true TT/Tri, it worked for me (still have the frame set up for time trials). In certain ways, there is little "risk" since you could always convert it back to road (subliminal justification).

I've only used Shimano Bar Cons, so I can't comment on the Campy... but then again, I've had good success with Bar Cons.

I just sent in my home insurance premium... too bad the house is worth less than my bikes!

What the hell's up with The Wrath of KHAN anyway??!!??

We abide.

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Martek, R2.8, Khan, etc....sn69
Sep 30, 2002 4:52 AM
I don't think they're Martek products. I've had some limited correspondence with them and I've also used Babblefish to translate some of their old website. They claim to make their own goods. Perhaps they've shared some molds/tooling with Martek, but still, Kuota/Feryn has ISO certification which is fairly substantial and not easy to come by. I don't know how their warranty claims process would be in actuality, but they assured me that there would be no problems. Likewise, they seemed keenly interested in breaking into the US market. To that end, I've got a hunch that their new web site will list US distributors.

My old 'Dale was a 2.8 series--the '95 R700, red to purple fade. It was stiff, light and fast, but not terribly comfortable. Part of that was the fit. As you mentioned, that bike was a hybrid geometry, 75 degree STA I think, but, it had a long top tube. My bike was too large for that configuration, and after a lot of work to make it better, I finally sold it and bought a different tri bike. The other part was the drop-out configuration. Cannondale effectively shortened the chain stays, which I'm sure added stiffness and responsiveness. Still, it wasn't built for comfort.

I've had the same general luck with bar end shifters. In fact, my current ride is my first foray into "modern" STIs. I'd love to hear from someone who's played with Campy bar ends. There's a tri store south of New Orleans (assuming it survived) that offers Campy tri packages. Hmmm....

Khan--not to my liking. Granted, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love lugged steel as much as high tech carbon, but Khan exceeds my threshold. It reminds me too much of that goofy Cinelli cross pollinated with some bizarro downhill/freeride mountain bike.

re: ... there's still room on the Platinum card...flying
Sep 29, 2002 5:05 PM
These guys sell them
12 & 1300
re: ... I wanna see what the deal is on the Khan frame first...Akirasho
Sep 29, 2002 5:34 PM
... I'm trying to justify what I see from an engineering POV... and haven't seen it yet... organic in a H.R. Giger sort of way...

(If Giger designed lugs...)

We abide.

Remain In Light.

Be the bike.
a perfect application for Coombe pedalsStarliner
Sep 29, 2002 5:54 PM
You gotta go with Coombes if lugs looked like that.
bike sales down in EU... time for "Let's make a Deal" !! (nm)SantaCruz
Sep 29, 2002 6:54 PM
Looks like Martech framesStarliner
Sep 29, 2002 5:45 PM
The Korsa is a dead ringer for Martech's standard road frame. The Supergo Scattante CF frame. It's a good frame- I've got a bp Stealth 59cm.
Sep 29, 2002 9:46 PM
Repeat after me: I want!