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Just bought speedplays...Have questions...(11 posts)

Just bought speedplays...Have questions...mlbd
Sep 27, 2002 9:16 AM
I just bought some Speedplay X-3s. I've been using Looks and thought I'd try these because of my sore knees. Are X-3s okay to use for racing/fast group rides. I have not ridden them outside yet (will tonight), but I gave them a little test inside. Once you rotate your foot outwards a bit they disengage pretty easily. During out of the saddle efforts (sprints, accelerations), it seems like it would be easy to accidentally disengage them if your foot floats too much to the outside. Has anybody had a problem with accidental disengagement?

Also, should I change my saddle height because of the thicker cleat?

Thanks a lot.
re: Just bought speedplays...Have questions...Inhighgear
Sep 27, 2002 9:34 AM
No they will not unclip. Mine never have. They do feel funky as for the float aspect. Most time you won't ever know it unless you start testing the float. Really helps with knee pain which is a greater evil.

I find that they clip I better if you follow instructions and lube the cleats as indicated..I just never have any "Dry Lube' so I use whatever chain lube or greease that I have.

Get the cafe covers for $9.99. they'll keep the cleats clean and protect the metal outside.

The adjustment is your decision, did they raide your foot?
re: Just bought speedplays...Have questions...Andy
Sep 27, 2002 9:41 AM
I use the X2 pedals... for everything. I have never had a problem with the cleat becoming disengaged and I don't know of anyone who has had that problem. I went from looks to speedplays and didn't have to change my saddle height.
Maybe the Wrong Pedal For YouStewK
Sep 27, 2002 9:47 AM
I don't race but I ride fast and I never have that problem (unless I break the cleat spring), but I am bow legged and my feet turn out not in.

Or you may get used to them. Speedplays do require using some muscles that you're probably not used to using.

Or you might be better off with the Speedplay Zero's. I haven't used them but they offer more limited float options. Maybe somebody else has had experience with them.

Personally, I don't think I could use clipless pedals if I didn't use Speedplays.

As far as saddle height. You might want to actually lower your seat because I think the foot to spindle difference is smaller. You really need to get on the bike and see how much bend is in your knee.

Good luck.
re: Just bought speedplays...Have questions...netso
Sep 27, 2002 9:50 AM
In 3 years of using Speedplay x2's i Have never had them disengage. I did not have to change my saddle height.
re: Just bought speedplays...Have questions...mixinbeatz
Sep 27, 2002 10:10 AM
I have raced on the X-3's for about a year and have had few problems. I had to replace the cleats after about 5,000 miles and the bearings are about shot with approx. 7,000 miles on them. Unless you have a really goofy pedaling style you should not have any problems with them releasing. What I can say, is that I would not buy the x-3's again. The bearings are cheap and require maintenance every thousand miles or so even though my race bike was hardly ever in the rain(partial disassembly and greasing followed by sealing) and after less than a year are pretty much shot. When I got speedplays for the first time, I had to lower my seat about 1/2 an inch to make up for the lower profile.
re: Just bought speedplays...Have questions...Juanmoretime
Sep 27, 2002 11:00 AM
I've been riding Speedplay pedals since the early nineties. I've never had any bearing issues at all. I started with X2 and rode them for six years and sold them because, here is the big confession, I'm a weight weinnie and had to have a set of the X-1's. I lube them about every other month with the grease injection fitting. This can't be done with the X-3's. As far as the other poster's comment on having to replace the cleat at 5, 000 miles. Speedplay tells you to replave them at 5,000, read the yellow disc that comes with the new cleats that you have to remove from the cleat. I've never actually met someone who has pulled out of a Speedplay cleat nor have I. Although some racers will give me some sh!t and tell that the strong sprinters can and that's why they use looks. It definitely bull, racers always like to stretch the truth a little bit especially when it comes to their personal performance.
re: Just bought speedplays...Have questions...Lactate Junkie
Sep 27, 2002 11:12 AM
Yea, actually there is more chance of pulling out of a Look in a hard sprint than a speedplay. Speedplay is a mechanical lock, the only way you can pull out is if you break the pedal or the cleat. Look has a spring on the retention plate and if you pull hard enough you can open it and your foot will pop out.

I have used SP's for the past 8 years of racing and have never had a problem with them letting go. The only issues are the free rotation isn't always to everyone's liking and over time and wear they develop a fair amount of slop in the attachement between the pedal and the metal bars in the clear. I guess I should probably replace them after 8 years.
X3 MaintenanceRubberbandman
Sep 27, 2002 11:17 AM
My X3s began having problems with the bearings at about 8,000 miles. I continued riding them until they were totally shot. I wouldn't recommend the x3s if they ride over 1,000 miles per year. They perform fine but the bearing systems is less durable than more expensive models.

rbm
agree about the X3sjefajones
Sep 27, 2002 5:20 PM
The X3 uses a cartridge bearing compared to a needle bearing system on the X1/2. That said, I've road SPs since the day the body was solid resin type the eventually wore away - creating a throw away pedal. Having always used X2s, I bought a pair of X3s a year or so ago, the bearing went on the right pedal after about 500 miles. The bearings on the left pedal just went, after about 5,000 miles. I'm convinced, based on my experience and anecdotal evidence from others, that the needle bearings of the X2 are worth the additional cost over the X3.
When I got my SPs...biknben
Sep 27, 2002 12:18 PM
...I didn't care for the ease of exit like you describe. You turn your heel out to a certain point and poof...you're out. There's no click or noise to signal exiting the pedal. It felt weird at first. I got used to it.

I've been using them for 1 1/2 years. I've gone about 8,000 miles and replaced the cleats once. I never came out unexpectedly. Frankly, if your heel twists out that much during a hard effort there is something really wrong. At that point you may come out of the pedal but it may be the least of your worries.