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No respect on the road...(16 posts)

No respect on the road...phlegm
Sep 24, 2002 12:20 PM
I can't believe it. I got cut off by a lady turning left on a vespa today. I had to slam on my brakes to keep from running her over. The worst part was she didn't even seem to see me. Are people blind to cyclists in my city or what? Good thing for her I wasn't one of the rednecks in their gas guzzling wanna-be monster trucks.
Just started riding today? :-) nmtz
Sep 24, 2002 12:27 PM
re: No respect on the road...godot
Sep 24, 2002 12:33 PM
I was turning left into the work parking lot at the end of a ride today. a car was waiting to make a left out of the lot. i signalled that i was turning left, the driver looked right at me, and went anyway. i had to brake and dive in tight to avoid hitting the car.

keep your eyes open, make no assumptions, and always assume that drivers don't see you.

glad you avoided the accident.
Sep 24, 2002 12:48 PM
The idiot probably just thought you were waving "hello" ;)
oh man, listen to this...mr_spin
Sep 24, 2002 12:49 PM
The other day I'm riding along and suddenly my tire has less air in it than I put in earlier. And when I say less, I mean hardly any air at all. What is the deal with that?
lol nmcollinsc
Sep 24, 2002 12:50 PM
oh man, listen to this...The Human G-Nome
Sep 24, 2002 1:11 PM
dude, that's nothing! the other day i was riding down PCH and i look down at myself and i'm wearing a full USPS outfit complete with time trial socks. everyone was laughing at me. and i was thinking, why do i set myself up for such ridicule?
Milk just shot out my nose!Turtleherder
Sep 25, 2002 7:04 AM
ROTFLMAO! Stop it, you're killing me! Now the other people at work are looking at me funny!
Not to excuse drivers ...PdxMark
Sep 24, 2002 1:00 PM
who sometimes seem blind to anything but their latte and cell phone, but I think some drivers simply underestimate just how fast many of us ride our bikes. In town, many of us here can keep up, or almost keep up, with the flow of traffic. I think many drivers are surprised by that...

It's not an excuse, just an observation. It means, for me, that I try to be as visible as possible and let them know my intentions CLEARLY (hand signals, etc.). And if I am keeping up with traffic, and there is no other clear place for me to be, I take my place in the middle of a lane.
re: Not to excuse drivers ...tao
Sep 24, 2002 2:36 PM
I think this is a tempting assumption to make but I just don't by it. The eye/brain is extremely good at not only judging relative velocity, but acceleration as well. Here's my theory:

Drivers assume they have the all clear and only wait or stop if the "hurt me" index is over their threshold. The "hurt me" index is computed by multiplying the perceived weight of the other vehicle with its velocity. Thresholds vary and are directly proportional to impatience and expected invincibility.

This explains while people will turn out in front of a bike seemingly at will, sometimes for a small car, hardly ever for a large car/truck, and never for a semi given the same velocity. If this weren't true, there'd be a lot less drivers, or at least we'd see a lot more car - car accidents while riding. Plus the difference in average speed from the normal commuter, say 15mph, and a top rider, say 22 mph, isn't so great over the course of a couple seconds that if the top rider has to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting the front of a car turning across their path, the normal rider is home free. The normal rider will still have to slow down to avoid hitting the back of the car turning across their path.
I didn't mean to sound so serious...phlegm
Sep 24, 2002 1:23 PM
No, I didn't just start riding today. I was wearing plain, non cycling clothes (except my helmet) riding my ghetto fixie. It didn't really surprise me, but I did find it incredibly hilarious that I can't even get respect from a vespa on the road. I mean, I expect people in large vehicles to be rude, but a vespa? :-)
I didn't mean to sound so serious...The Human G-Nome
Sep 24, 2002 2:00 PM
i wasn't implying any diss on your potential dress. in regards to the vespa, if you're an asshole off the bike, you'll be an asshole on the bike. same goes with Vespas and cars. so it would stand to reason - knowing how many assholes we meet every day, it's not surprising we run into so many on the road.

and to follow up on that cell phone thread. me = guilty. i've used it on the bike before, but i under no circumstances condone my aberrant behavior. i am much deserving of the scorn of which this entails.
Just yesterday I saw . . .Steve98501
Sep 25, 2002 12:33 PM
a cyclist pulled over on the side of the road. I slowed down to see if he had trouble, but he had just pulled over to take a call on his cell phone. I laughed. At least he wasn't riding and talking at the same time.
With a name like that how do you expect to command any respect?nLone Gunman
Sep 24, 2002 4:46 PM
re: No respect on the road...aliensporebomb
Sep 24, 2002 3:02 PM
I finally decided to get a bike and gear that are so loud in
terms of coloration that I look like I'm wearing madras, plaid
and polka dots all at the same time.

It might not help drivers see me but I'm pretty sure that
SOMEONE is going to see bright neon yellow, bright orange
or blue jerseys and a red helmet and silver and yellow shoes.

Of course, most cyclists think I'm nuts anyway so no problem
Real Motorcyclist know what the deal is.niteschaos
Sep 25, 2002 3:56 PM
I was in downtown traffic in Atlanta (one of the worst bike cities) around 7:30pm and I pulled up next to a guy on a motorcycle. I looked at him and said, "I left my engine at home" and pointed down at some empty bottle cages and he laughed pretty hard. I guess it was the timing and the fact that I'm a big guy in spandex that did him in.