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I'm looking into getting a track bike need help deciding...(8 posts)

I'm looking into getting a track bike need help deciding...853
Sep 23, 2002 10:41 AM
I'm looking into both of these bikes. It will be used for racing. Anybody with experience on components, frame geometry and any other aspect I might be over looking.
Which one would be better suited for racing? and why?

Thanks

http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/03/cusa/model-3PR3K.html

http://www.fujibikes.com/road/bike.asp?category_short_name=road&myArray=1,2,3,4,5,19,6,7,8,18,16,9,10,20,11,12,13,17,15,14,54,55,56,57&myArrayID=10
Track racing is about the rider, not the bike.MB1
Sep 23, 2002 10:50 AM
That being said I believe (I rode last years Fuji) the Cannondale is a much racier bike than the Fuji which is fairly entry level.

Used is always a good way in track racing (the stuff never goes out of style).
They're both fine.Alex-in-Evanston
Sep 23, 2002 11:09 AM
Take a peek at the used market as well. There's not much new in the track world, so bikes hold their value.

One thing I would suggest - buy large, and if possible, get a bike with a threaded headset. Picture your road bike dimensions and imagine spending 100% of the time in the drops. It might make you want to buy up a size, or at least have the ability to raise the bars at a whim.

Alex
Agree with Alexbrider
Sep 23, 2002 12:24 PM
Either one will work. The spec on the Fuji is a little more race-ready (but under geared for racing, as is the C'dale), and I like the C'dale frame better.

I also agree with Alex on the quill stem -- not only better for initial set-up, but also easier to swap out for the Kilo/pursuit set-up. Don't want to be messing with headset tension between events.
so if I were to get...853
Sep 23, 2002 1:25 PM
so if I were to get a cheaper priced bike, like a Bianchi Pista. I would be fine and not outgrow it. I would hate having to buy a low end bike and then really getting into it and then wanting something better. It's already happened to me.
If I only need to change a few things(like wheels/tires)to take the Bianchi to the level of any other track bike then that's what I'll do. I'm just afraid of a flexy steel frame and was looking into aluminum.
It all depends on how serious you will be about racing...PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Sep 23, 2002 1:51 PM
In order of things I feel make a difference they are:
1) wheels - if you ever get serious and decide to do a national championships aero wheels such as a rear disc and front 3-4 spoke are a must. They tend to take off about 0.2 seconds in a 200 m. But until your hovering around 12.0 seconds in the 200 m or 5:20 for the pursuit its not worth worrying about.
2) frame - a stiff/aero frame does help but unless your a really strong guy chances are it won't make a huge difference.
3) components - even less important than the frame. Dura-ace track stuff is splined so its incredibly stiff. But realistically unless your going under 12.0 seconds in the 200 m you won't notice it.

So basically my point is the Fuji, KHS and Bianchi are all great bikes and if your going to be doing club races and the odd meet then this is fine. I know my first 2 years on the track were on a KHS and I didn't have a problem with it. When you get to the point where your really serious and getting really competitve disc wheels will be your first big purchase. Then after this a new frame or bike.

Cheers,
Nick
PodiumBound.ca
Both good bikesPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Sep 23, 2002 1:39 PM
If you've already had experience racing and have used the club bike then these 2 bikes are a great second step. Also consider a KHS as opposed to a Fuji. Here in Calgary junior national championships have been won on these bikes proving the rider does make the bike.

The main difference I see between the 2 bikes is the parts spec... the Cannondale has Dura-ace which is the top end of track components and the KHS or Fuji have Miche which is the lower end. Theres no middle line when it comes to track stuff.

However, if you plan on getting really serious about racing I'd recommend skipping the prebuilt bikes and speccing your own custom built bike. You can expect it to cost about $2000 with Dura-ace and theres a lot of companies that build frames. I ride a Cramerotti and love it so I recommend them. Their website is http://www.cramerotti.com and they do everything from your pick of colors to custom geometry for their regular price.

Also keep in mind if your going to get serious about racing you will need to buy a selection of gears. 48-50 chainrings and 14-16 cogs will easily give enough range.

Finally, someone made a point about a quill stem but in my personal experience I'd almost recommend just leaving the steerer tube uncut (within reason) and using spacers to find your ideal length.

Cheers,
Nick
PodiumBound.ca
Both good bikesishmael
Sep 24, 2002 5:54 AM
Where is a khs with miche? And why do you say Miche is lower-end? I guess you could argue its not as nice as dura-ace but it's still very nice stuff. I'm looking to sell my khs aero track(the orange one) and maybe get something nicer or atleast that fits me better but, as you say, there isnt much middle ground. As of now I'm thinking of getting the fuji with miche, but it's still a bit more expensive than I'd like. Also, the front fork isnt drilled so I was going to install a brake on the back, any drawbacks. I'll probably use it more for training and commuting but I'd like to have a good bike for next season. I've never done it before although I've already owned 3 track bikes. They're fun to play on.