|Teens who assaulted Seattle-area cyclist on trial||TypeOne|
Sep 19, 2002 11:45 AM
|Someone posted this story last spring, when a carload of teenagers slowed down and pushed a cyclist on the road, causing him to fall and become seriously injured. But this time, there were witnesses, the teens were caught and most interestingly, the cyclist is a pastor who preaches forgiveness.
Pretty amusing to see these dumbass kids turn on each other and blame each other for what seems to be the fault of everyone in the car. Little weasels. Take the plea!
What ideas for "creative justice" or "constructive justice" can we think of for these kids? I think they should be forced to ride the Seattle-to-Portland ride next year. On knobby tires, wearing cut-off jean shorts!
The Reverend is a bigger man than I, because if I was in his place I would not forgive or forget. The kids would pay.
|Description of the events||TypeOne|
Sep 19, 2002 11:51 AM
|This is from the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, which described the attack in more detail:
Deputy prosecutor Christine Wendt said "a number of lives were changed" the moment the boy "leaned out of the vehicle up to his waist, placed both of his hands on Mr. Tinney's back and pushed."
She said the boy called two friends later that day and bragged about what he'd done.
Tinney said he had looked down at his speedometer. It read 30 mph. Under him, Newport Way Southeast was sloping gently downward.
Then he noticed the white car approaching.
"It caught me by surprise because it was so close," he testified. "I could see that the window was open, and someone was hanging out."
Tinney said he couldn't remember what the young man looked like -- he only recalled feeling a thump on his back. He tumbled to the ground. His helmet cracked. He lay there in agony, one cheek against the asphalt.
"That's when I was able to see how many people were in the car, and that they were all laughing," he said. "The laughter is the thing that is probably the most haunting of all that happened that day."
|Each kid who is found guilty should have to :||Old_school_nik|
Sep 19, 2002 12:12 PM
|Mount 144 (one gross) Michelin Supercomp HD tires to Mavic MA-40 rims - they will not be allowed to use talk powder or tire irons for this task - they get no breaks and no bandages for their hands after they become raw after the first 2 tires...
Seriously, I hate to say "an example should be made" because that sets up special application of the law - but they should all be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
Perhaps they should be forced to go around to schools/drivers ed courses and explain ho cyclist have just as much right to the road as cars and are better to everyone especially in Seattle where Urban Sprawl is a major major issue.
That is in addition to their time served or monetary punishment.
|Easy -- No Driver's License For Any Of Them||Gregory Taylor|
Sep 19, 2002 12:23 PM
|Force them to walk (or ride) a couple of miles in the shoes of the guy that they injured. If pushing over guys on bikes is so funny, let them ride a bike to work.|
|you know that won't work||rufus|
Sep 19, 2002 2:07 PM
|they'll just whine for mom and dad to drive them. and mom and dad will do it.
trash me if you will, but kids have it way too easy these days.
|Even better!||Gregory Taylor|
Sep 20, 2002 5:41 AM
|Hey, the kids will still be punished because getting driven around by mom and dad after you are old enough to have a license is painfully dorky. The parents get their own ration of punishment for raising a spoiled little miscreant by having to drive junior around to everything.
Yes, most middle class kids do have it way too easy these days. And as a parent in that demographic who is addressing these issues with my own offspring, I can tell you right now that if Junior ever pulled a stunt like that, he would be riding his Schwinn while he lived under my roof....
|I shouldn't post this but . . . creative punishment||cyclinseth|
Sep 19, 2002 12:04 PM
|dowse the kids with gasoline and light them on fire.
amputate thier hands and feet, then toss them into Puget sound.
Make them ride Paris-Roubaix
|Each kid who is found guilty should be :"||JohnSmith|
Sep 19, 2002 12:23 PM
|Dragged naked by a team of horses across the asphalt of a sun-baked parking lot covered on broken glass and rusty nails.|
|re: Teens who assaulted Seattle-area cyclist on trial||fbg111|
Sep 19, 2002 12:46 PM
|Give them to what's left of the Taliban and tell them the kids are a bunch of cursing, fornicating, boozing, stealing Zionists.|
|Teens were from Issaquah||klay|
Sep 19, 2002 12:58 PM
|A recent article in the other Seattle paper, the Seattle Times, showed Issaquah to be one of the higher rent suburbs of Seattle. Median family income was over $130k (IIRC)
|Since we're talking cruel and unusual punishment...||brider|
Sep 19, 2002 1:00 PM
|I have a favorite that I've just been waiting for the right occasion. THE MEAT SLICER. |
Set it on "thin," and put those punks on there, feet first.
I figure you wouldn't get more than two or three slices before they passed out from pain. Then take them off, cauterize the wounds, and wait for them to regain consciousness. Then...
I don't think you'd get much past the ankles before they died from blood loss.
|Oh man, That's horriable!!! OWWWCH!||JohnSmith|
Sep 19, 2002 1:30 PM
|That's sick! Keep it up!|
|and the kids in the back seat.||rufus|
Sep 19, 2002 2:10 PM
|should be tried as accomplices. just for the fact that they were laughing about it afterward.|
|Sounds like he practices what he preaches||carnageasada|
Sep 19, 2002 4:17 PM
|re: Teens who assaulted Seattle-area cyclist on trial||clintb|
Sep 19, 2002 8:07 PM
|If I had a child that was old enough, neither is yet though, to do such an absolutely EVIL thing as those kids did I would disown them. Since these kids were juveniles, the parents should be brought in to serve some time or payback as well. In my mind, their action is nothing less than attempted manslaughter. They willfully commited a violent act against another human which could have potentially killed him. Might as well been hanging out the window with a gun in hand.
God I hate cars and what they turn people into.
|Sounds like a built in defense||Mel Erickson|
Sep 20, 2002 7:21 AM
|The car made me do it!
Cars are tools, they have no brains and they don't turn people into monsters. The people do it all by themselves. These kids need to be punished for what THEY did and the parents need to be made accountable also. I liked the idea of making them go around to elementary/middle schools and talk to kids about respect for everyone who uses the roads. I think the parents should do this too. Some fines (parents and kids), maybe a little jail time to give them a taste of what the consequeses of coninuing a criminal life would be and losing their driving licenses for a couple of years. Regarding another posters suggestion that punishment for the parents would be to drive the kids around; this won't happen. The kids have friends who will drive them around because they won't be caught dead with their parents.
|Sounds like a built in defense||clintb|
Sep 21, 2002 3:45 PM
|Well, yes, point taken. It's not the cars, but rather the mindset of people once they step into their car. Some are their normal selves, while others are somehow transformed into the playground bully. Regardless, the kids and their parents should be made to suffer. An eye for an eye.
I'm personally for public stonings and putting someone in stocks at the middle of town. Public humiliation is where it's at. Let all your peers know what kind of a person you really are and we'll see who sticks around.
|re: Teens who assaulted Seattle-area cyclist on trial||aliensporebomb|
Sep 20, 2002 5:07 AM
|I bet those kids never get to borrow the family car ever
|to be broken on the wheel...||husker|
Sep 20, 2002 6:20 AM
|There is a wonderful discription of being "broken on the wheel" in a great book entitled "Batavia's Graveyard." It involves the shattering of the femur and other gruesome details. It must have been the most painful torture devised by the peaceful people of Holland.|| |