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Joining the roadies(36 posts)

Joining the roadiesHeilx
Sep 19, 2002 11:01 AM
I finally finished my road bike. I had a LBS do the BB and Headset/Post. I did the rest. My adventure race teammate swears it will make me a better mountain biker. I guess we'll see.

How did I do? Is the bar tape too much?
Well I'd say you got a fine bike.Sintesi
Sep 19, 2002 11:08 AM
But you're going to be slipping forward on that saddle alot.

Do we be "roadies?" Can't you just call us cyclists?

There I feel better.

Welcome to the tribe.
Well I'd say you got a fine bike.Heilx
Sep 19, 2002 11:49 AM
Sorry about the "roadies" comment. My girlfriend says that I am a hippocrit, because I still use the term.

My first group ride was last Thursday and it went well. I guess I might be hooked.

Should I tip the nose up a bit more? The seat on my Mt bike is tilted pretty far down. I'm still learning about the mechanics of being on the road, so any tips would be much appreciated.
Saddle tiltGMS
Sep 19, 2002 12:00 PM
Most people start with the saddle perfectly level and either leave it alone or tilt it upwards slightly. Sliding down onto the nose is not fun.

Of course, do whatever you feel is most comfortable.
I like a level saddle...Dave Hickey
Sep 19, 2002 12:09 PM
With the saddle tilted down, it puts a lot of pressure on your hands. Also, your butt slides forward to the narrow part of the saddle putting more pressure on sensitive areas.

Great looking bike. Enjoy.................
Welcome to the darkside!Dark Sonix
Sep 19, 2002 11:31 AM
Nice machine. Your buddy is right on. One of the myraid reasons I ride the road is to improve my MTB fitness. Comparing my seasons of just MTB to seasons of road and MTB is night and day. You will go faster and stronger by improving your aerobic and threshold abilities on the road.
unless you use a camelbackcyclinseth
Sep 19, 2002 11:46 AM
put the other waterbottle cage on there.

In any case, enjoy!
re: Joining the roadiesPygme
Sep 19, 2002 12:08 PM
Nice bike. But I am more impressed with that shine on the floor!!
Amazing, how DOES he do it? (nm)Crankist
Sep 19, 2002 12:32 PM
Amazing, how DOES he do it? (nm)Heilx
Sep 19, 2002 1:34 PM
The picture was taken in the empty lab next to mine. The powers that be decided that it need a cleaning. Probably going to recruit some new Doc in there, so they had to spruce it up a bit.
Amazing, how DOES he do it?Crankist
Sep 19, 2002 6:52 PM
Admit it, it's your home foyer. Here's another welcome aboard. Oh, and good lookin' bike. And be aware that you may never look back!
post some mop/waxing tips please (nm)Dark Sonix
Sep 19, 2002 12:53 PM
saddle commentbm
Sep 19, 2002 12:52 PM
the saddle on my bike is tilted a bit, just like yours. the other peops are right that you tend to slide to the front. but it doesn't necessarily hurt for riding i do, like 30-40 mile rides. i'd say if you were going to do longer rides, like centuries, make the saddle level. of course, you should decide for yourself.

i like the saddle tilted a bit for racing, because i think i go faster. i think a titled saddle changes your cycling geometery to time-trial geometry. so, there's more stress on your quads and allows you to close the gap behind the handlebars.
welcome! everyone's welcome, except recumbent riders...JS Haiku Shop
Sep 19, 2002 12:55 PM
just kidding.

ooooohhhh purty!

anywho, that bar tape is nice. you're the one looking at it all ride, so who cares if somebody else thinks it's over the top. i'm using the cinelli 7-color on a guacamole green bike, so i suppose my fashion sense can't be relied upon...

observation: you must've had a steep ride into wherever that picture was taken. i'm just noticing your chain is in the big cog/small chainring. LOL.

regarding the seat, if you've had some sore arms or numb hands, leveling the seat (with a level) and making small adjustments from there will help.

regarding the bottle cage, the more cages you use, the more water you can carry. whether you use a camelbak or not does not qualify you for a greater or lesser number of cages. do what you like!


ps. no computer or seatpack?
Hmmm, the s*** police are curiously quiet so far, lucky day! nmSpunout
Sep 19, 2002 2:30 PM
RE: computerless and seatpackless....Steve_0
Sep 20, 2002 5:44 AM
dont knock it 'till you try it!
don't think i haven't. nmJS Haiku Shop
Sep 20, 2002 6:09 AM
Re-mount the tiresAndy
Sep 19, 2002 1:08 PM
That's a jim-dandy good looking bike. The only thing I'd do is re-mount the tires so the labels line up with the valve stem holes. That's the first thing I look at!
Re-mount the tiresHeilx
Sep 19, 2002 1:32 PM
Unfortunately, I can't match up the labels and stems. The tires are tubular clinchers from Tufo. The stem is in a fixed place.
"tubular clinchers" are you sure? (nm)NJRoad
Sep 19, 2002 2:24 PM
either orjose_Tex_mex
Sep 19, 2002 2:49 PM
The tires are either tubular or clinchers, not both. Roadies often use tires called sew-ups because the tube is sewn inside of the tire, it is then glued onto the rim. Hence these tires are called glu-ons, tubulars, or sew-ups.

Clinchers cling to the rim because of the pressure of a seperate inner tube which can be removed. This is the most common tire - tube combo. I guess a third would be the newer tubless tires - like most cars.

The two differences go back to the designs of an Irishman -Dunlop and a Frenchman - Michelin.

Sew ups contact more area of the rim and thus experience less overall pressure. There's no difference in rolling resistance between the two types. Sew-ups are much more pricey and a royal pain in the @$$ to fix on the move.

Anyhow, I would definitely make the saddle level. You're going to fatigue your body not only because of the low profile but due to the slipping effect as well. Try an 80 mile ride and you will probably start to cramp up.

If you level your seat you could probably drop your shifters a bit. I like them lower but that's mostly a style thing.


Was this one of the bike direct buys?
Sep 19, 2002 4:09 PM
makes tubulars that mount to clincher rims.
Why? Is there any advantage?Bruno
Sep 19, 2002 4:12 PM
No glue! nmMel Erickson
Sep 19, 2002 4:56 PM
you get to use tubulars on clincher rims. that's about it. nmweiwentg
Sep 20, 2002 4:24 AM
Tufo: I'm running some nowWalter
Sep 19, 2002 5:21 PM
I'm currently running the Tufo "tubular clincher." As noted no glue. No danger of pinch flats either. If you like high presure the Specials will go up to 175psi. Seem to be very f**t resistant.

On the other hand a bear to mount even compared to regular sew-ups. Have been told they're harsh riding (I'm on the far side of 200# so maybe I smooth them out abit as I don't find them harsh). Lightweight clinchers with light tubes are lighter. Also, if the sealant Tufo provides doesn't work I don't see how these can be repaired as there's no rim tape to remove to get at the tube but rather a strip of creased rubber that grips the clincher rims.
looky here...biknben
Sep 20, 2002 7:27 AM
Very nice!Mel Erickson
Sep 19, 2002 4:59 PM
I've always liked the Fuji Team. Personally I'd pick a different tape but if you like it that's all that matters. Besides, I'm partial to yellow.
Heilx - How tough was it?SantaCruz
Sep 19, 2002 5:22 PM
I'm thinking about building a roadie for my teenage son using all the components from my #2 bike. I'm not too bad mechanically, but never assembled a bike (obviously). Should I consider doing it myself or pay the LBS $150 - 200 to do it for me.
Do most yourselfaeon
Sep 19, 2002 9:12 PM
I'm 19, and with help have replaced or removed most of the components from my road bike. (It's undergoing surgery now: New fork, new stem, new derailleur, new custom cassette) Gives lots of practice as to how things work. If you're buying a new frame, get a shop to install the bb and headset/fork if you don't want to mess with them. Maybe crank too if you don't have the tools. The rest should be fine, and lets you get things the way you like too. Remember to have all the correct tools and greases or you'll be re-doing it in a month.
do it all!!!Steve_0
Sep 20, 2002 5:47 AM
the only way to learn is to do it yourself.

The only limiting factor, imo, is the tools. There's only a few specialty tools really necessary, and the money saved from the build will easily pay for them.
re: Joining the roadiesBreakfast
Sep 19, 2002 6:50 PM
The tape looks fine, when it wears out or gets too dirty try different colors and color combinations like yellow/black.

You'll have fun going on fast group rides as they teach you alot about riding and surviving in the pack.

I try to tell my MTB buddies they need to forget about buying into the Freeriding fad and just get a road bike to round out their education as a cyclist since they all seem to lack fitness as cross country/trailriders. You can't find the same competitiveness on the trail as the terrain tends to separate riders and it's too difficult to remain in tight groups on singletrack and over and through obstacles to challenge the next guy. The road is where the competitive juices flow, the mountain bike is where you either dominate or get dropped, and then you feel all by yourself.
Sep 19, 2002 9:18 PM
Right. Come to BC and you'll appreciate why even cross country bikes are 30lb.
I thought I was the only one with cow bartape! ;) (nm)PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Sep 19, 2002 7:34 PM
Heilx - How tough was it?SantaCruz
Sep 19, 2002 8:59 PM
I'm thinking about building a roadie for my teenage son using all the components from my #2 bike. I'm not too bad mechanically, but never assembled a bike (obviously). Should I consider doing it myself or pay the LBS $150 - 200 to do it for me.
Heilx - How tough was it?_Helix_
Sep 20, 2002 7:25 AM
It was pretty easy. I didn't want to drop the money on the tools, so I had a LBS do the BB and Headset/fork. I had worked on my mountain bike in the past, so it wasn't that difficult. I would definately suggest doing it yourself. Not only will you save money, but you will have a better appreciation for the finished product.

BTW my screen name is different now because I am a moron and can't spell.