|WTF? Where do you all Ride?||270bullet|
Sep 19, 2002 8:18 AM
|Based on all the posts about being hit by cars, slamming car doors on passengers, being hit by eggs, beer cans, dead chickens, water balloons, etc., I have to ask - Where do you ride, in Hell?
I've ridden mountain roads full of log trucks, back wood red-necks driving pick-ups with loaded gun racks and an open case of beer, the city streets of SF, and the crowded roads of SoCal.
All told about 20 years on the bike. I've never been hit by a car/truck/bus and know of only a few people who have (talking national champs, pros, and solid Cat 1,2 racers). And those were accidents -not intentional. I've never had anyone throw anything at me except an occassional "get on the sidewalk" ...wait, that only happened when I was in Ohio.
My only conclusion, I've died and am reading the exploits of other dead cyclists riding through cycling hell. They should change the name of this board to "roadbikeinhellreveiew.com"
|I think people are oversensitive in general...||TJeanloz|
Sep 19, 2002 8:25 AM
|I think a lot of people are very sensitive to the things going on around them. Or I am undersensitive. If a car passes me very closely, I don't really notice, unless it actually makes contact- which has never happened. If somebody threw something at me, I'm sure I wouldn't think that it were thrown at me unless it actually hit me.
I think a lot of cyclists are very prickly about it, and if anything gets thrown out a car window within 2 miles of said rider, it was a deliberate attack; if a horn was honked, then the driver was irate with them; if a car has no room and passes too closely or too fast then they were trying to kill the cyclist. Either that, or everywhere I've always ridden has been heaven compared to what people here experience.
|Some of it is likely fiction as well....||Bill is in Denver|
Sep 19, 2002 8:55 AM
|Makes for good reading. Keep in mind nobody knows the ages of the people typing in here..some of which are bound to be quite young and just dying for an 'atta-boy' response from those they consider peers. It would seem to me if in reality you rode around town slamming car doors on people trying to exit...you would sooner rather than later come across someone like me who exerts more force on that door while seated and braced than you can while balancing one handed on the bike. You'd end up on your back..with someone's foot on your neck. Think of how you guys would react if it were your 7 year old climbing out of that door and his foot got caught in 'supercyclists' slamming maneuver. That cyclist would go home with his cute aero bars hanging out of his saddle area. Like I said, much of what is posted on here is fiction..just treat it like the sunday comics and laugh as you go.
|Try stepping out of a cab||onespeed|
Sep 19, 2002 9:10 AM
|Into traffic from the drivers side while I am riding up the street and you will find out if the fairy tale is truly fantasy.
The entire operation took less than a second. It caught the person exiting INTO traffic unawares. They didnt have time to react until I was long gone. For your info, there are signs inside cabs warning pedestrians that it is against the law to exit the cab from the driver side into traffic. They were violating, not me.
Where is the fiction in this?
|News Story: Cyclist injured after breaking girls leg||270bullet|
Sep 19, 2002 10:45 AM
|SomeCity, ST; A cyclist going by the name "onespeed" was seriously injured today after a good samaritan witnessed "onespeed" slamming a cab door on a 7 year old girl breaking her leg and cutting her forhead.
"Onespeed" attempted to flee the scene but was detained by by the girls uncle who was walking toward the cab.
"I saw this jerk on a onespeed bike slam the door. I heard my neice scream in pain. I immediately new this skinny little prick hurt her. When I saw him try to get away, I just was enraged. I put a good shoulder into him and knocked him flat" said Howie Long, former NFL player.
When asked about the other injuries "onespeed" had, Howie responded "I don't know how he got boot marks on his throat, I wear Bruno Mally shoes. As far has him having his handlebars stuffed up his butt, I can only guess that when he fell something happened."
"Onespeed" was heard to mutter something about "where's the fiction it that?" When asked to comment on the situation, Onespeed responded "I was in the right, I am a cycling god and I will enforce every rule I belive should be enforced. If a little girl has to get hurt in the process, well then that's just collateral damage. Her parents should have known better."
The seven year old is in stable condition recovering from a concusion and broken leg. "Onespeed" will be released from jail tomorrow so he can have surgery to remove the broken handlebars from his rectum. He is being charged with reckless endangerment and attempting to flee the scene of an accident. He could face 6 months in jail and a $100,000 fine.
|Unimaginative and overbroad. You need a creative writing class.||onespeed|
Sep 19, 2002 11:47 AM
Sep 19, 2002 1:14 PM
|Was my writing to "overbroad" for you? Does that mean I wrote it standing above your sister, or does it cover too much ground for you?
I guess you would know about creative writing, judging by your posts.
Just a shot at trying to make lite of an a$$hole's behavior. Guess I failed....oh, well. I wish you well.
|What is the point in using profanity? Your idea of creativity?||onespeed|
Sep 19, 2002 3:37 PM
|Hahaha, that is freakin beautiful. (nm)||Bill is in Denver|
Sep 19, 2002 9:18 PM
|How do you...||fbg111|
Sep 19, 2002 1:12 PM
|slam the door on somebody when you ride by? I assume you're approaching the car from behind when the door opens, so how do you slam the door when you're moving in a direction opposite to the door's closing direction?|
|People here really doubt this move.||onespeed|
Sep 19, 2002 3:34 PM
|As I was riding by on the left I grabbed the door as I approached it and as I moved by the car I flung the door behind me. Try it.|
Sep 19, 2002 8:32 AM
|I always wonder the same thing when i read 'whats been thrown at me' posts.
I think some of these people need to question the mental health of their peers.; 30 years of biking and never once heard of anything being thrown a cyclist in south jersey/east pa.
I certainly do understand the risk of accident in an urban environment though.
|i ,agree, although||pukka|
Sep 19, 2002 8:39 AM
|someone did through an egg at me in manhattan,but it was halloween|
Sep 19, 2002 8:48 AM
|You are not seeing a representative sample of cyclists. You are seeing a vocal, extremely small, minority. While there may be millions of cyclists in the U.S., we've heard from, what, 20 or so?
We are not even seeing a decent sample size of the people who visit this site. Several hundred responded to the "who are you" and "what bike do you ride" threads, but only a few weigh in on the "hell" issues.
Therefore, I think you can draw no conclusion whatsoever.
|(I think his conclusion was intended to be facetious.)||Steve_0|
Sep 19, 2002 8:54 AM
|but to play devil's advocate, you have no data to conclude these victims are NOT riding in hell.|
|except myself nm||DougSloan|
Sep 19, 2002 9:07 AM
|time to change your handle to "Faust" : ) (nm)||Scot_Gore|
Sep 19, 2002 10:02 AM
|same here ...||tarwheel|
Sep 19, 2002 9:03 AM
|I've been road riding more than 25 years. I've never been hit by a car or wrecked. I've never had anyone throw anything at me. Occasionally a car will honk or someone will yell something, and 90% of the time it's a carload of teenagers. ... On the contrary, I've had at least 3 people yell "Go Lance" at me during the past year or so. I guess people are just nicer here in NC.|
|Where and how you ride||filtersweep|
Sep 19, 2002 9:31 AM
|I was hit by a car this year- not a big deal... no injury, minor damage to the bike... it can happen. I've never had something thrown at me... only been seriously buzzed once. In many thousands of miles. I'm lucky, but I also hedge my bets by riding sensible routes.
I tend to ride on roads "favored by roadies" for good reason: long stretches of wide road with few traffic controls to slow me down that are NOT major thoroughfares for motorized traffic and what traffic there is EXPECTS to see bikes. I tend to ride early in the day on weekends while the misanthropic teenagers are still in bed and hung over or after work during the weekday. I will commit blasphemy and use commuter trails to get to and from good roads during rush hour...
I could go out of my way to "invite trouble" by riding at rush hour along a major thoroughfare with little to no shoulder and loudly proclaim that it is my RIGHT as a cyclist to do so... I'm not faulting anyone who does this, but alternatives are available to me.
|Well, I currently ride in Auburn, WA||brider|
Sep 19, 2002 10:10 AM
|But I've been around western Washigton all my life. Yes, I've had a couple things thrown at me, pretty inoccucous. Once I was shot with a paintball gun (I think that's what it was -- no marks, but my entire lower arm went immediately numb, and I wasn't so sure I hadn't been shot with a .22). I've never hit pavement because of a car (but I have several times due to other cyclists). I've had a few close calls, but MY fast reactions saved me. |
But all-in-all, it's been good.
Sep 19, 2002 11:23 AM
|I've read about cyclists being hit by kids with paintball guns. As an ex-paintballer I think it's terrible that these kids are ruining a sport that so many people enjoy. And on top of that those kids could have killed a cyclist if they hit him/her in the eye. Paintballs, when shot from close range, can easily draw blood. Without eye protection it's easy to have permanent damage to the eyes. Kids can be really stupid.
Anyway, I've only had a driver yell at me once for not comming to a complete stop at a stop sign (riding a fixed gear). I have a good feeling that that same driver rolled through his stop sign too :)
Sep 19, 2002 1:05 PM
|Well, this actually happened in Issaquah. I think it was a paintball gun. Could have been something else, as I heard a noise not too unlike a firearm. I was going along the Hobart-Issaquah road heading north, and this truck pulls out from a side street making a left turn right beside me, also going north. The passenger window was open, and I hear this "pop" inside, and my entire left forearm, from the elbow down, goes instantly numb. I'm thinking, "I've been shot!" so I didn't get a license number or anything. Fortunately, I was wearing a Goretex shell, so it didn't directly contact the skin. There was no residue or paint, so I can't say for sure it was paintball (I don't think those make any kind of firearm sound). Luckily I didn't crash.|
|probably bounced off then...||girchygirchy|
Sep 19, 2002 1:18 PM
|If it hurt that much, and there was no paint, it probably just bounced off without breaking. So, instead of the shell absorbing some of the impact, your arm absorbed all of it. It hurts a hell of a lot more that way. Did you have a little welt where it hit?|
|re: WTF? Where do you all Ride?||qp-rider|
Sep 19, 2002 1:43 PM
|After riding for over 20 years, including numerous long 'tours' with no problems...this summer I was hit by a pickup truck. No major injury and definately not intentional...he just didn't see me. The only lasting damage was to my bike, which the insurance company replaced. That happened riding around Lake Tahoe during high summer with lots of people on the road...
I ride in the San Francisco area and have never had a problem along my regular routes...If this is hell...please let me stay!
|re: WTF? Where do you all Ride?||aliensporebomb|
Sep 20, 2002 4:57 AM
|I'm very lucky.
I was hit by a car once when I was 13 (a guy let his girlfriend drive his car to the prom and she was a little preoccupied and ended up skidding into me in an attempt to stop), got hit by a mostly full beer can in the chest once but other than that no major incidents. I've had idiots
yell stuff from cars at me but mostly harmless. I did have
a car full of teen or twentysomething girls yell a bunch of
whoops, "hey baby's" and "go lance's" which was cool but
I was wondering where these ladies were when I was single.
I also had a guy in a pickup truck on the oppossite side of
the road actually stop his truck in the middle of the road
to give me a thumbs up.
A harley rider gave me a big thumbs up when I was on an
early morning training run earlier this summer when I was
dressed in my Team Poseur (reg. tm) kit.
|don't speak too soon...||DINOSAUR|
Sep 20, 2002 7:29 AM
|I've been riding since the early 70's and the closest thing I've encountered to being being harrassed is having people sneak up behind me and yell at me (Worked once but never again). The lastest thing now is being buzzed by cars seeing how close they can possibly come to you without hitting you. All types of vehicle, all type of drivers. I used to yell at them, now I don't show any emotion and ignore them. Not much you can do as long as they don't hit you. Riding with a mirror cuts these occurances to about nil as I can see them coming up behind me (not much traffic on the roads I ride).
A couple of months ago a car drove by me and someone chucked an empty plastic water bottle container at me, hitting me on my upper back. It did not hurt, as the bottle weighed next to nothing, but it did startle me and I tweaked my lower back. I was a little bit stunned and immedialtely thought about all the posts I have read on this forum about cyclist having objects thrown at them.
I've been hit by a car once, crashed solo causing major injuires, but the things I worry about most is running over a squirrel, getting bit by a dog, or tagging a deer.
But never say never, just give it time....
|i'm from Alabama and people i know have tried to hurt cyclists.||aet|
Sep 20, 2002 9:02 AM
|i have been in a car and had the driver start going towards a biker to run him off the road, stopping only because i threatened to kill him if he went through with it. i was not always with this dude so i am sure he did it once. anything that can happen once can happen 100s of times.|| |