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bizarre rust problem with my lugged steel frame(13 posts)

bizarre rust problem with my lugged steel frameStinky Hippie
Sep 17, 2002 10:48 AM
Hi guys. I found myself caught in a torrential downpour about 3 weeks ago while riding the Blue Ridge parkway. When I got home, being the fastidious guy I am, I immediately pulled the seatpost, spun out the wheels and dried off the entire bike. It's a custom stainless lugged frame, so I was especially vigilant.

A week later I go to get my bike for a ride and I noticed a greenish blob of rust eminating from the headtube/downtube junction -- it was coming out from under the lug. Seems there was either a void in the solder between lug and tube, or that water seeped under the paint. From the look of things it was the latter, but I'm not too sure as of yet. Anyway, I'm pretty incredulous at this point (I don't expect this from a $1900 frame with a $400 paint ,tape and polish job) and was just wondering what your thoughts are regarding this matter. Is this kind of thing common?

Thanks

Feel the gin

Stinky
I would take it back. (nm)onespeed
Sep 17, 2002 10:52 AM
it's wrong..dotkaye
Sep 17, 2002 10:58 AM
that's not common.. take it up with the builder, I think..
greenish?Steve_0
Sep 17, 2002 11:02 AM
perhaps some copper was in the weld?
call the builder.
a little green, a little brown.....Stinky Hippie
Sep 17, 2002 11:12 AM
..strange stuff

Feel the gin
Who built your frame? nmMXL02
Sep 17, 2002 11:06 AM
i'd rather not say at this point.....Stinky Hippie
Sep 17, 2002 11:16 AM
....I know the guy and would thus like to keep this issue quiet -- at least keep it off a public message board. Of course, should he screw with me.....

Feel the gin
if it is a legitimate mistake, okMXL02
Sep 17, 2002 11:18 AM
but if this is the standard for his quality of work, please let the rest of us know so we can avoid him.
Thanks.
my thoughts exactly. nmNo_sprint
Sep 17, 2002 11:29 AM
You have my word, but know that....Stinky Hippie
Sep 17, 2002 12:41 PM
....if he didn't have a stellar reputation in my area among some pretty devoted connosieurs, and if I hadn't already seen a number of his previous frames up close and talked to their owners, I wouldn't have bought the thing in the first place.

Will keep y'all posted and thanks for the input

feel the gin
well, if he has a stellar reputation,weiwentg
Sep 17, 2002 4:47 PM
then he'll likely make good on your bike, imho. talk with him and send it back.
Seek medical attentionTurtleherder
Sep 17, 2002 11:11 AM
The problem was taking your trusted riding companion out in bad weather. The bike now has a sinus infection. I would suggest treating it with bed rest and anti-biotics. Seriously, take it back to the builder, it's not supposed to do that.
re: bizarre rust problem with my lugged steel frameNessism
Sep 17, 2002 11:33 AM
Sounds like there is a pin hole in the braze joint which is allowing gunk from inside the frame to find its way outside. The greenish blob is likely a combination of water, rust, rust preventative treatment, and maybe even brazing flux. I agree with the others that suggest you contact the builder. The frame can be fairly easily repaired, but the paint job will be toast.

Good luck.

Ed