|Giant Road Bikes...difference between TCR and OCR||butzdogg|
Sep 16, 2002 10:19 AM
|Can someone tell me what are the differnt ride characteristics between a Giant OCR and a Giant TCR. I was under the impression that the Giant TCR was their higher end line but was surprised to learn that Ginat makes a $3000 OCR Elite model. Has anyone who has ridden both share their opinion of the two??|
|re: Giant Road Bikes...difference between TCR and OCR||Beaver|
Sep 16, 2002 10:50 AM
|Haven't ridden on OCR, but I believe that the main difference is geometry. The OCR favors a more upright riding, "touring" position, where the TCR favors a lower, "racer" position.
I was also surprised at the $3000 model, but if there is a market for it, then Giant will build it.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think that OCR's come with Triple chainrings whereas the TCR's have doubles. Unless you account for the new aluminum frame with carbon chainstays that has a triple. Which really surprised me, I thought they would come with a double because if you have a really sharp eye, you can see ONCE riding the aluminum/carbon stay frame early in the racing season.
|re: Giant Road Bikes...difference between TCR and OCR||weiwentg|
Sep 16, 2002 11:17 AM
|there are two types of OCRs. the ordinary OCRs are heavier than the TCRs (and most of them have threaded non-aero forks). the OCR Elites are made of the same tubing as the TCRs, except that they have higher headtubes, and I think there's enough clearance for 28c tires.|
|re: Giant Road Bikes...difference between TCR and OCR||aliensporebomb|
Sep 16, 2002 11:51 AM
|Right. This year they made it confusing.
Last year it was cut and dried:
Now they have
The OCR Elite's are different in that they have more
fancy features. The standard aluminum OCR0/1/2 differ
in that the 0 has a carbon fork and a full 105 triple.
The 1 and 2 have lesser grouppos and non-carbon forks.
The Elite's are much fancier this year - some have
Carbon stays and disk brakes! I just got the new
Giant catalog yesterday.
TCR Team/0/1/2/Aero/Carbon Team/Carbon0/Carbon1
The TCR series is the one to get. If you want the least
expensive TCR it would be the TCR2 - I even saw one for
$1099 ($200 less than I paid for it) on sale for a this
years model closeout. 2 and Aero is full 105, 1 is set
up with Ultegra and 0 is Dura Ace and Ksyriums. The
Carbons are pretty darn nice.
What it comes down to is this: when I test rode an OCR1
against the TCR2 there was no contest - $300 more for
the TCR2 got you so much more bike that I knew I had to
have the TCR. YMMV.
|Notice a creak??||hirevR|
Sep 16, 2002 12:20 PM
|I have a 2001 TCR O and notice a lot of creaking coming from the frame? is this the frame fatiguing under flex? should i expect a crack? is it just me?
|Frame is probably fine...||Slip Stream|
Sep 16, 2002 12:39 PM
|any time you notice frame creak or way too much frame flex it is usually a loose drive train. The easiest is to tighten is the skewers. If they are very tight (especially if made of titanium) and the creak is still there, then check your pedals. If still creaking it is time to clean and teflon (plumber's) tape the bottom bracket threads.|
|Notice a creak??||aliensporebomb|
Sep 16, 2002 12:48 PM
|No creaks from my bike except shortly after I bought it -
about 50-60 miles on the bike.
The seat was loose. Tightened the allen screw holding it
to the post - no creaks.
And I'm not a lightweight guy, around 220 lbs (and losing).
|How'd you get the catalog?||fbg111|
Sep 16, 2002 12:20 PM
|I want to get one too, but don't see any way to sign up for it on Giant's site.
Also, to butzdogg, I second aliensporebomb's last comment about TCR2 vs. OCR1. I bought the OCR1 a few months ago, rode it for a month, then exchanged it for the TCR2. The TCR2 accelerates better, handles better, and is a real racing bike vs. the OCR as a touring bike (speaking only of 2002 models, sounds like 2003 OCR elites may be closer to a racer).
Here are a few other things different b/t OCR1 and TCR2, in addition to what was mentioned above:
OCR1: heavy metal stem, hinged for infinite height settings.
TCR2: light carbon stem, 2 height settings.
OCR1: metal seat tube.
TCR2: carbon aero seat tube.
OCR1: slightly longer wheelbase.
TCR2: seat tube fared so rear wheel moved forward for slightly shorter wheelbase.
OCR1: Giant saddle. (wasn't comfortable to me, got numb boys after 10 miles)
TCR2: Selle Italia Flite saddle. more comfortable.
Both are good bikes, but the TCR2 is lighter and made to go fast. If you want to ride fast or race, get the TCR. It's worth the $300. If you only want to tour and also prefer to save the $300, go with OCR1. Again, I'm only referring to the 2002 models as I haven't seen much of the 2003's yet.
|TCR v OCR||Geds|
Sep 16, 2002 3:25 PM
|I was told in an LBS that Giant builds the TCR frames itself, but contracts out manufacture of the OCR frames to cut costs.|
|TCR v OCR||fbg111|
Sep 16, 2002 4:12 PM
|Interesting. Did they tell you who Giant contracts?|
|TCR v OCR||Geds|
Sep 16, 2002 6:15 PM
|I think (note foggy memory here) he said it can change from year to year???|
|This site will boggle your mind||Slip Stream|
Sep 17, 2002 4:53 AM
|Looking for information on Martec forks I found a site that lists Asian cycling manufactures and pictures of their products. Martec builds a carbon frame called "Talon" that is not for sale in the US. Poke around http://www.bicyclesb2b.com/ and see just how many manufactures build frames third party. I saw Giant style frames on many pages.|| |