|Where were Boobke and Patrick????||Landsharkrider|
Sep 15, 2002 12:16 PM
|First off, let me say how great it was to have OLN cover the SFGP for the entire race. Just think how much of an improvement OLN's work is this year from US TV cycling coverage from the past....
How is it that Bob Roll (numnuts) and Bill Patrick (who is he again?) did not even know where the finish line was? The race was over and they did not even know it!!!! The race only came through the finish 18 times (19 if you count the start) and they can't tell how close to the finish they are. It made the whole thing anti-climactic. I could understand if it's like the Vuelta coverage where they are doing it from a studio in another country but they flew Roll back from Europe for this. Next time maybe they could save the money.
If they are going to spend the $$$ to televise it, how about getting some announcers who can figure out what the hell is going on.
|re: Where were Boobke and Patrick????||crabeedough|
Sep 15, 2002 12:41 PM
|Truly, Truly, Truly. I was severely disappointed by the finish also. I believed that Eki and Lance were still in it, but then suddenly everyone sat up. What good is a finish if you can't even tell that people are excited. A sad end to otherwise good coverage. Perhaps a little work could be done with the uplinks from the motorcycle cameras. Too much squeaking, freezing, and blacking out. Although I guess the 'A' team and equipment are in Spain right now (along with the 'A' announcers who are aware of the 'finish' or 'finale')|
Sep 15, 2002 1:30 PM
|My wife and I were watching the coverage and I am not sure Bob and Bill even realized this was the last lap. By the commentary it sure didnt seem like the finish was coming up. We both looked at each other and said "huh, its over???" Then they just played it off and didnt even mention how badly they flubbed it! LOL It was a great race though!|
Sep 16, 2002 6:40 AM
|you don't have to be there to call a race competently. The "A" team is actually in England commenting on the Vuelta. As far as the camera work, in Spain, it's probably done by whatever the national TV channel is that covers the race and then is sold to whoever wants it (same for any race). I imagine the SFGP was shot by some local TV people, you could see them cutting to the local newspeople or to John Eustice and crew that were comentating for the local coverage, OLN would quickly cut to the helicopter shot whenever this would happen. Maybe that was OLNs camera or they just had a different guy controlling which camera shots they showed.|
|re: Where were Boobke and Patrick????||Fausto|
Sep 15, 2002 1:46 PM
|Was it just me or did it appear like Lance sat up at the end. Less than 1k from the finish, he is out of the saddle stretching his legs.
The last time up Taylor Street, he crests the hill, stops pedaling for a moment and then starts talking into his shirt again.
Sep 15, 2002 2:00 PM
|I noticed that too. It seemed like he was able to move to the front at will and then dropped back very quickly too.|
Sep 15, 2002 3:17 PM
|was at the race today morning and I noticed that Lance seemed to be in far better shape, 2-3 miles to the finish, than other riders. He also looked almost casual as if it were lap #5 or somethin. Did he simply throw the race just because no other postie was in a position to take it? Does that make sense?
BTY this was the first bike race that I went and was sure fun. Took a lot of snaps bit the camera not being digital, the pics will have to wait a bit.
|Stretching his legs?||Wayne|
Sep 16, 2002 4:04 AM
|That was an attack, and everyone was right on it. He actually got gapped when they pegged him and somebody else went (Ekimov?). I thought he was dropped but he came back on the tail going around the final corner. Not on his best day is he going to outsprint Vogels. He was cooked otherwise he would have at least tried to give Ekimov a lead-out. You knew he was done when they came to the base of Taylor street the last time in last position and barely hung on over the top.|
|Stretching his legs?||Fausto|
Sep 16, 2002 4:23 AM
|You could possibly say he was "gassed" at the end. But as someone pointed out earlier, he seemed to move back and forth at will.
Right after the last turn, he stood up on his pedals. Had he given up? As you said, why not give Eki a leadout?
|maybe the weird course design?||rufus|
Sep 15, 2002 3:26 PM
|i know lots of city courses use a smaller loop for the last couplke of laps, but this one seemed really strange. first do 8 laps of a ten mile course, then 5 more of a five mile course, and then weren't there one or two even shorter loops at the very end? confusing.|
|Quit yer whining||Spoiler|
Sep 16, 2002 7:32 AM
|Man, you people make me ashamed to be a roadie. Roll has to fly from Spain to San Fran overnight, ignore the jet lag, cover a 4+hour race with a guy who knows little about bike racing, and then has to fly back to Spain. The TV cameras are cutting in and out making ID'ing riders next to impossible. You're probably the same girl who was crying about never seeing bike racing on TV. If the coverage sucked so bad, just candel OLN. Or better yet, write them a letter telling them that they should spend their money on small mouth bass TV instead of cycling. Now you got it and all you can do is find more reasons to cry. Maybe this is nature's way of telling you to spend your Sunday in the saddle instead of weeping in front of the TV.|| |