|Passing on the right...wtf||collinsc|
Sep 13, 2002 9:15 AM
|Every time someone bring this up they get chewed out, but it just doesnt make any sense to me. Where the f*ck else is a bike supposed to go?! You're riding thru traffic, as far right as possible, traffic stops, you can keep moving provided there is no one in your way.
Are you all proposing that on a bike i am to cross the lane in order to ride pass these cars, only to give it my best shot at not getting smashed when i have to try and get over to the right side again?
How the hell is this supposed to work?
|If I can't pass on the right||TypeOne|
Sep 13, 2002 11:53 AM
|...then the cars shouldn't be able to pass me on the left. Hell, I ought to take my entire lane, huh? Wrong. That would be insane. So we share the lane. If there is nothing in front of me and cars are backed up on my left, then I am going. That's why I ride my bike to work, afterall.|
Sep 13, 2002 11:56 AM
|How is this supposed to work? You're supposed to act like any other vehicle on the road and not pass the vehicle in front of you. If there's a red light with 5 cars stopped, you stop behind the 5th car. When you're in your car, assuming you have one, you don't pass cars in the breakdown lane, or on the shoulder because there's room for you to do it.
It really isn't hard to ride within the flow of traffic- a bike can accelerate as fast or faster than most cars, and easily reach the top speed that cars see in an urban environment.
The rules of the road generally apply to everybody on the road, not just cars.
|I don't know where you ride,||RickC5|
Sep 13, 2002 12:04 PM
|but I can't do 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. Yet, that's what far too many drivers do where I have to ride. No fun!|
Sep 13, 2002 12:05 PM
|cars aren't required to travel as close as practicable to the right curb, as bikes are in California. If I'm in a car in the right lane, other cars can't pass me on the left in the same lane. However, when I'm riding in a lane near the right curb, as required by state law, cars pass me on the left in the same lane all the time. On the other hand, if those cars that have passed me get backed up, I'm not going to jump in line behind them and wait until they start moving. I'm going to pass them on the right as long as I have enough room to do so safely. Certainly I've encountered situations where I haven't had room on the right to pass safely, and I have waited behind cars. However, in 20 years of road riding, I've never had a problem passing cars on the right side when I've had room to do so safely.|
|California has this really unique law,||RickC5|
Sep 13, 2002 12:47 PM
|which allows two vehicles to occupy a single lane at the same time, as long as there's room. Supposedly, this law was written to allow two motorcycle cops to ride side-by-side. That's why you will see motorcycles zooming between cars when traffic gets backed up. Its not illegal for them to do so, as long as they can stay in one lane long enough that they don't get busted for frequent lane changes. It also allows bikes to do the same thing.|
|California has this really unique law,||gwendolynofthemountain|
Sep 13, 2002 4:18 PM
|the law was made for Ponch and Jon!!!|
|California has this really unique law,||DINOSAUR|
Sep 13, 2002 5:31 PM
|The reason you see motorcycles passing stopped traffic (called "lane splitting") is because there is no Ca vehicle code section that prohibits it. 21658 (A) VC pertains to changing lanes when unsafe or lane straddling. As mentioned before in another post, say traffic is stop and go at 15MPH and a motorcyclist is "splitting traffic" at 50MPH he would be in violation of 22350VC unsafe speed for conditions.
As for bicyclists passing on the right; In Ca bicycles are required to ride as close as possibe to the right hand edge of the roadway. Technically (in CA) if a cyclist is passing traffic on the right and staying within the designated traffic lane and wasn't going too fast for conditons, he would not be in violation unless he passed traffic on the right shoulder. However I've never known of a cyclist being cited for this. The only time it would be an issue is if there was a traffic accident resulting from passing traffic on the shoulder. What comes into play is common sense and what is safe. Depends on the situation and traffic conditions.
|Depends on your state's law||RickC5|
Sep 13, 2002 12:01 PM
|Colorado clearly says "Don't do that". You are expected to stop behind the last car and then proceed (off on the right side) when the lights turn green. Absurd? Maybe. Ignored? Universally. Enforced? Not that I've ever heard of.
But, its just like jay-walking in downtown Denver. I asked a Denver officer if it was legal or illegal, since EVERYONE does it. His answer: "Just don't get hit."
So passing cars on the right in Colorado? Just don't get hit.
|Screw the left lane bandits!!!||grzy|
Sep 13, 2002 1:20 PM
|If they don't like it then get right. |
If you're talking about a bike being on the left passing a bunch of slower cars on the right then you're talking your chances of the driver not seeing you. Question is, do you feel lucky? If I have gobs of speed I'll pull around and pass them on the right like a normal pass. It's safer when you stick to convention and what people expect. Besides, it's kind of a hoot to pass a car while on a bike and look down at the driver.
|where i live...||rufus|
Sep 13, 2002 1:44 PM
|is a tourist town, with one main road that travels the length of the town. during the summer, the traffic can be backed up the full length of that road, often for several miles. and since you have cars pulling out from the shopping malls and fast food places, it moves in fits and starts. if i didn't pass on the right, if i took the lane behind the other vehicles, i'd be stuck in that line of traffic for 30-45 minutes, so why ride my bike? i might as well be in the car. the breakdown lane on the right is what most drivers consider a bike lane anyway. yes, i've been hit once by a car turning left into a mcdonalds, but he was sitting in the traffic line, never signalled, and decided to turn in suddenly just as i was right beside him. i just bounced off his fender panel and kept going.
sometimes at lights, i'm on the right, other times i'll take the lane, it depends upon which is safer, especially if i'm turning left.