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Does anyone know if this is a real Colnago?(14 posts)

Does anyone know if this is a real Colnago?Dave Hickey
Sep 12, 2002 11:25 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1858834807

If it were a true track bike, it wouldn't have rear brake housing guides on the top tube? Also if you look at the close up pictures, there are no clover cutouts on the fork crown. It didn't sell the last time around, I'm just wondering if it's real.
Bought on a corner in Times Square? nmnoveread
Sep 12, 2002 11:52 AM
seems fishy but might be realColnagoFE
Sep 12, 2002 12:02 PM
are the colnago logos stenciled on or a sticker? i think colnago only used stencils. the fork doesn't look like a colnago fork i've seen. might be an aftermarket fork? not sure. it also looks a bit beat up and rusted.
here's a pic of a lot prettier one circa 1990ColnagoFE
Sep 12, 2002 12:20 PM
http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/colnagrog.html

notice the chrome stay, the radically different geometry, chrome fork and lugs. Looks like a totally different bike.
here's a pic of a lot prettier one circa 1990Dave Hickey
Sep 12, 2002 12:30 PM
I agree, track frames usually have real short wheelbases. The one listed on Ebay looks like an old touring frame.
There's some sort of cutout on the fork crown...brider
Sep 12, 2002 1:29 PM
might be the traditional cloverleaf. Can see it on one of the pictures, but can't see the whole thing.
Made in Mexico?Walter
Sep 12, 2002 1:13 PM
Colnago had a bike called the "Mexico" awhile back but I'm pretty sure that was in commemoration of the '68 Olympics in Mexico City. Did Colnago ever sell fixed gears for road use? Clearly that's what this bike is with the combo of track ends and brake cable braze-ons.

Colnago did use decals up until sometime in the mid-90s or so and there're alot of those decals all over eBay. I'd be suspicious.

Despite that it's a neat looking bike and if the reserve isn't ridiculous might find a home.
Heres a pic of a MexicoColnagoFE
Sep 12, 2002 1:39 PM
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/colnago_mexico_bike.htm
re: Does anyone know if this is a real Colnago?JimP
Sep 12, 2002 1:57 PM
Very interesting. A track bike with clincher tires??? A bike with Suntour Supurbe Pro brakes would be at least 20 years old and would have had tubular tires. Makes me suspicious. Looks like someone made up of old parts and put Colnago decals on it.
custom brazed, but with original paint?off roadie
Sep 12, 2002 1:59 PM
Look at the description:
"Rare Very Rare Experienced Made in Mexico COLNAGO PROFESSIONISTI Track Bike 54 cm C/T and 52 cm C/C with a Very Rare Duel Track Hub & Custom Cable Braze-ons and Front & Rear Brakes Perfect for N.Y.C Bicycle Messengers! BIKE PAINT & DECALS ARE COMPLETELY ORIGINAL TO BIKE. A Totally Cool Original Classic Steel Ride. Seat Post is loose. Bike Has Just Been Serviced & is Ready to Roll! Original Scratched up Decals & Buttercup Yellow Paint. Come By Our Shop & Pick Her Up! "

OK, the custom brazing explains why it has cabel stops, but then how would it still have original paint? Was the custom brazing done at the factory?
I also didn't realise "duel" tack hubs were very rare.
I have to wonder why a bike shop can't fix a loose seatpost- it sure makes demoing the bike easier.

It does look like a decent bike, but something doesn't add up for me.
re: Does anyone know if this is a real Colnago?desmo
Sep 12, 2002 2:40 PM
I couldn't tell you if it was "real" or not but it looks to me like somebody's pretty well done backyard project bike. as said before that is not track geometry. I've seen that seller's items before in the vintage motorcycle section and IMO is a huckster with a L.A. thrift store and not much knowledge of the goods he's selling. On the other hand it looks like it would be a nice road going fixie if it sold for $150 or so.
re: Does anyone know if this is a real Colnago?DINOSAUR
Sep 12, 2002 3:14 PM
I have a 2002 Master X-Light, and the rear drop outs don't look anything like the bike pictured. They have been making the same frame for decades. See if they have a frame number, should be on the r/rear dropout. Colnago keeps track of all of their frames, but good luck in contacting them. I'd be real leery...
re: Does anyone know if this is a real Colnago?xxl
Sep 13, 2002 2:16 AM
I'd vote "no." Couldn't tell from the photos, but where are the lugwork cutouts? Plus, the decals look awfully white for a twenty-year or older bike.

I know a couple of honest-to-goodness real bike messengers that would get leftover high-end bike decals and slap them on their rides, as a sort of "statement" to poseurs, etc. Perhaps it's like that...
Top Tube looks damagedgoathead1
Sep 13, 2002 10:57 AM
near the seat tube / top tube lug. That part of the bike is
suspiciously absent from all of the photos, too.