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Is there a happy medium?(9 posts)

Is there a happy medium?MXL02
Sep 10, 2002 5:54 PM
Expanding on a thread below where Tom Teesdale frames were mentioned, I found it interesting when perusing his site that he has a frame category called "SportRoad". This is a frame for a recreational rider who participates in fast group rides but does not race. The frame geometry is somewhere in between full race and touring. I've often wondered why more frame builders don't offer this type of frame since it seems many riders fall into this category, myself included. I thought it was an interesting concept...what do you all think?
I am the ghost of cycling past.....Ahimsa
Sep 10, 2002 7:27 PM
....and as usual all things old are new again.

The old "sport tourer" was a popular thing....I, 20 years ago or so? Help me out here you crusty old mfers.

I have a singlespeed built from an old cheapo Raleigh sport touring frame. It's a POS, but the geometry seems nice enough.

(It's a bit small for me though and sees little use anymore, but that is off subject.)


Well, 18 years ago I bought a Univega Sportour, nice nimblescottfree
Sep 11, 2002 8:16 AM
bike that also had eyelets for racks if you wanted to put them on. The Univega catalogue that year had 'racing' bikes' (aggressive geometry) 'touring' bikes (laid back and heavy), and the aforementioned Sportour. The Sportour seemed like a great compromise, and it was. I still ride it all the time.
More of them are showing upRay Sachs
Sep 11, 2002 9:17 AM
Specialized now makes one, Giant makes one, I've heard that Cannondale does as well. IF and Serotta have em, Waterford, Gunnar, Surly. Rivendell's basically made a whole business of doing higher end sport touring bikes.

Features include slightly more laid back angles, longer chainstays, lower bottom bracket, higher possible handlebar position, clearance for fatter tires and even fenders, rack and fender mounts, etc. They feel almost as fast as a purebred racer (engine dependent, of course), but are a WHOLE lot more comfortable and relaxing on mile 90 of a century and are a WHOLE lot more versatile.

re: Is there a happy medium?gtx
Sep 10, 2002 7:29 PM
it's a limited market, but they're out there. There used to be more bikes like this.

I think it's a great way to go, especially if you don't race and ride through all kinds of weather/conditions.
re: Is there a happy medium?Me Dot Org
Sep 10, 2002 7:52 PM
I don't think the majority of "racing" bikes in this country are owned by USCF members. I would think that most people who ride "racing" bikes would like 'road sport'geometry.

Yes, some people would like to take a cross-country trip in a Lotus Elise, but most would opt for Grand Touring car for day-in, day-out use. (And before someone gets on my case, I would love to drive a Lotus Elise!)

Waterford still makes Road Sport and Road Sport Extended frames.
re: There is for me,.dzrider
Sep 11, 2002 3:57 AM
Some more frame builders whose websites describe light touring bikes are Steve Bilenky, Peter White, and Jeffrey Lyon. Any frame builder who makes both touring frames and racing frames could build you a touring frame out of lighter material and create a bike like you describe. My inclination, however, would be to first talk to the guys who view this type of bike as a major part of their work.
even if you don't race you want the bike that canColnagoFE
Sep 11, 2002 5:40 AM
i think it's an ego thing. you want the ferrari and not the volvo even though the volvo makes more sense for the trips to the grocery store.
It's just like anything elseNo_sprint
Sep 11, 2002 7:27 AM
Most people who own race bikes aren't racers, most people who own Vettes and Vipers aren't racers, most people who own 4x4s don't ever get them in the dirt, most people who play DCIs aren't Tour professionals, most people who own GS skiis aren't pro GS skiers.

If it looks like a good setup for you, go for it!!!