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Ever wondered how to pronounce Ciocc? (ATTN:Matteo)(19 posts)

Ever wondered how to pronounce Ciocc? (ATTN:Matteo)cyclejim
Sep 9, 2002 8:25 PM
Yesterday Matteo was kind enough to offer to record the correct pronunciation of various cycling related words in Italian such as bicycle manufacturers, gruppos, and pro cyclists names in mp3 format.

He has done so and I went ahead and posted them on my web site for everyone to enjoy. (no derogatory comments either-I already know my web site sucks!!)

The files sound absolutely great and the pronunciation is impeccable!

You can listen to the mp3 files at the below link to my site, go to the links section. Enjoy!
Matteo, you are the man.weiwentg
Sep 9, 2002 8:56 PM
cyclejim, thanks for hosting this! this is great!!!
Matteo, you are the man.cyclejim
Sep 9, 2002 9:07 PM
He did a great job huh? Glad I could oblige!

Sep 9, 2002 9:10 PM
That is awesome Jim and Matteo! BTW nice pipes Matteo, you could have a career in voice-overs or radio. Good luck with your racing!
re: Ever wondered how to pronounce Ciocc? (ATTN:Matteo)desmo
Sep 9, 2002 9:28 PM
bravo. great job. I have been screwing up Ciocc for years. at least I had Bottechia and Coppi right. thanks again, this is really cool.
Very well done!!!eoceneman
Sep 9, 2002 11:52 PM
You've done a great job with the webpage. Very interesting...

-> For a future version 1.1, I've always wondered about the pronunciation for Veloce
Sep 10, 2002 1:19 AM
perhaps matteo can record my old name so some here can pronounce it properly (if he could stop from laughing)

say it loud, say it .....

Spirito di Finocchio

Thanks cyclejim & Matteo, very cool!!!! (nm)Scot_Gore
Sep 10, 2002 3:53 AM
Great stuff! How about "Guerciotti"?Look381i
Sep 10, 2002 4:16 AM
I've always said "gware chotty" but I've never heard an Italian pronounce the word.
Guerciotti [gwer-chee-OH-ty]nmLigon
Sep 10, 2002 6:29 AM
Excellent way to start the day, thanks nmafrican
Sep 10, 2002 4:39 AM
Thanks to the magical voice of Matteo...klay
Sep 10, 2002 7:37 AM
... I no longer need to sound like an idiot when talking about Italian bike parts! Well, maybe I still will but at least my pronunciuation will be better. ;-)

Great idea and execution!

Now, how about Fondriest Status? I just bought one and have yet to settle on one pronunciation. Fon-dree-est or Fon-dry-est?


dang, all this time, I thought Fondriest was ...gregg
Sep 10, 2002 8:14 AM
...two syllables. Fon-dreest?

Well that's just great...klay
Sep 10, 2002 8:45 AM
Yet another variation.

Feel free to pile the confusion on. I can take it! ;-)

LOL I think I'll just have to choose one and say it with authority

I haven't heard the pronunciations on the site, but Italian isbill
Sep 10, 2002 9:20 AM
a lot like Spanish, and different from English, in that there are actually consistent rules for vowel sounds. Every "a" is "ah," every "e" is "eh," every "i" is "ee," every "o" is "oh," and every "u" is "oo." There are no diphthongs or schwa sounds, so that Fondriest would be "fone-dree-est." Every vowel is pronounced, and there are very few silent letters anywhere in the language.
The ones that get me are the "c's" There, things get a little confusing. As I recall, a beginning "c" is always hard, a "c" in the middle of a word is soft, "cc" is "ch," and "cch" is hard.
When I and the Mrs. went to Italy, I found many people who spoke English, but I found that I was most easily understood if I tried to make my vowel sounds as consistently Italian as possible. Makes sense, right? Tried to avoid dipthongs, and I gave a little oomph to the schwa sounds. I thought it was helpful.
So, one day, in Rome, these people asked us directions. Imagine that? I was excited that these Italians were asking us for directions, because we must seem even more at home! I responded using my method, which ends up sounding a little like Chico Marx.
Turns out that the people were from England, and, by their eyes, they thought that I was absolutely nuts.
My wife will never let me live that down.
oh yeah. ci is "ch" (which is what started this, isn't it?).bill
Sep 10, 2002 9:27 AM
how to pronounce c in italianbludoggy
Sep 11, 2002 5:13 PM
c followed by an i or an e is pronounced ch
c followed by an o or u or a is pronounced k
c followed by an h is always pronounced k.
c with an s in front of it and an i or e after it is a 'sh'
capisce? (pronounced kapEEsheh)
I'm glad you guys like the audio files!Matteo
Sep 10, 2002 9:54 AM
Hi to everybody.

I'm very glad that you like the job Jim and I did.
Someone wonders about the pronunciation of other words, so yes, I can record another MP3 file with the new words.
Just post them.

Ciao for now!

P I A A A A N N N O O O O O!Skip
Sep 10, 2002 11:51 AM
Congratulations and thank you both!