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Delusional or coincidence?(29 posts)

Delusional or coincidence?Lone Gunman
Sep 7, 2002 12:46 PM
Did a ride today with a supposed large club that since it was a pay ride I thought it would be organized. What a Turd Hunt. Worst organized route I have ever seen. But stick with me....the ride is completed and I was having a conversation with someone parked next to me when a guy rides up in full Postal kit, right down to the gloves, ear bud ear phones and the plastic bike, and joined the conversation. During the conversation he mentioned "having Luke". It then dawned on me that this guy named his son Luke. Sort of reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George said he was going to name his kid "7" after Mickey Mantle. Folks, it was all I could do to keep from rolling on the ground laughing in this guy's face. So, delusional or coincidence?
postal wanna-be'sbm
Sep 7, 2002 2:15 PM
your not alone. what a joke, that guy. i'm sorry, but . . . the next time i see postal wanna-be without a helmet either, i'm gonna shove a stick in his front wheel like they do in movie "Breaking Away"
Thing is, I think the guy was a stand up guyLone Gunman
Sep 7, 2002 3:09 PM
Heavily involved in the Leukemia team in training thing as a coach and organizer, but when I heard "we had Luke", well you saw my comment.
Hmmm...Could it be?PseuZQ
Sep 7, 2002 6:46 PM
Could there be a *very* slight possibility that he was referring to "having Leukemia"? I'm inovlved with team in training as well, and have admittedly not heard this reference, but ya never know....
Here's how to tell how delusional. . .js5280
Sep 7, 2002 3:31 PM
Ask him if he still has his right testicle ;-)
LOL good one! nmOffTheBack
Sep 7, 2002 4:16 PM
sure it wasn't lance? (nm)rufus
Sep 7, 2002 3:32 PM
Hmmm, it could have been Lance. . .js5280
Sep 7, 2002 4:53 PM
He's the rider in the middle.

Picture taken BTW the 2002 RftR and that is a Postal Trek he's on. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, isn't it?
Looks like a pudgy Antonio Cruz...lolbriko51
Sep 7, 2002 5:50 PM
of US Postal...haha
i forgot...rufus
Sep 7, 2002 3:33 PM
he's gonna have a hell of a time trying to get his wife to have twins.
re: Delusional or coincidence?The Human G-Nome
Sep 7, 2002 3:41 PM
i completely understand the fred factor involved in wearing the full USPS garb, but i think it's kinda funny when people get so outraged and upset by it all. it's not like the guy is pretending to by a pro rider. he's just saying "i'm a big fan". seems like cycling is one of the few sports where flying "your team's colors" brings you ridicule rather then comraderie. if some baseball fan said he names his son Mark after Mark McGwire, it's not going to seem near as funny to anyone. just an observation, carry on.
re: Delusional or coincidence?bic
Sep 7, 2002 4:11 PM
I agree, it seems this is the only sport where dressing like one of your favorite participants is a no no. Even in baseball the coaches wear uniforms. Go to a Raiders football game sometime. Oh, you can leave the Chucky dolls, home he left!
re: Delusional or coincidence?fbg111
Sep 7, 2002 5:02 PM
There's a difference. In baseball and football, the fans wear their favorite team's jersey perhaps, but not the full gear. Imagine if you went to a pickup game and saw one of the guys wearing a Raiders jersey, pants, helmet, and boots (or whatever). You'd laugh at him and call him a poser too. Same as when you see a biker in full USPS team gear and who names his kid Luke, or three bikers on TCR Teams in full matching ONCE gear.

Don't be that guy.
re: Delusional or coincidence? ( long rant)The Human G-Nome
Sep 7, 2002 7:14 PM
Don't be that guy.>>>>

ok, since this seems to be a tagline that's been used quite a bit on this forum, i'll tackle it. the reference is to the kid who wears the t-shirt of the band that he is going to see play. "don't be that guy." fine. how freakin' novel is that? any 12 years old could tell you that. there comes a point when you're just being like everyone else which isn't original or cool at all. if you really wanted to be different you WOULD wear the t-shirt of the band you were going to go see. YOU would be the rule breaker, not the droves of lemmings trying to follow and covet their secret codes, hoping to catch someone out of place or out of line whom they can laugh at.

case in point: i saw Fugazi in '90 at the Creseda Country Club outside of L.A. Flea and Anthony ala Chilirock were in the audience wearing Fugazi t-shirts with Fugazi hats. they were saying: "look, i dig this band so much, i'm going to show them i'm a 'fan' and damned the style police."

cycling can be very similar to any underground rock scene where people go so far out of their way to be cool and different (mod, punk, ska, etc.) that they all end up looking exactly the same. 2nd case in point: team jerseys of any kind in U.S.A. since it's so known that it's not "cool", no one wants to "be that guy." so in turn, they go out of their way to dress down from the flash and logowear and in turn, end up wearing a "uniform". (yes, you all look the same.) the only kid who ends up looking different or novel is the kid in the pro jersey.

the same goes for bikes. many cyclists are willing to pay twice as much for an "unknown" or "lesser known" frame just for style points because they fear looking uncool on a bicycle that might actually perform twice as well.

final conclusion: there's a place for fashion in the cycling world no doubt, but not if it exists at the expense of common sense or with the exclusion of fellow riders.
re: Delusional or coincidence? ( long rant)fbg111
Sep 8, 2002 8:26 AM
I think you're being a little extreme. People don't wear a uniform b/c they're trying to fit in. They don't wear a uniform b/c they don't want to appear obsequious. That's the whole point about the "don't be that guy". You're already at the concert, showing you're a fan of that band. Wearing the band's shirt is overkill.

As for other sports fans wearing their team jerseys, that's right. They wear the jersey but not the whole uniform. How many times have you been in the stadium or had a pickup football or baseball game and seen guys wearing the entire uniform? And what would you think if you did you did see such a thing?
re: Delusional or coincidence? ( long rant)The Human G-Nome
Sep 8, 2002 6:55 PM
cyclists aren't wearing the whole uniform at the grocery store. they're wearing it on their bike. just like a football player might wear a whole uniform while he's playing football. it's not unusual.

and as far as the concert thing goes, if you buy a shirt at the concert, don't want to carry it, but still you wouldn't put it on over your other shirt (JUST) because you fear being "that guy", then you're being absurd. it's not like you're saying "look at me, i'm in the band!" it's just a stupid american ideal that we have because americans can be SO OVER THE TOP over everything that we're trying to distance ourselves from the masses. it's understandable and it's human nature.
i agree but . . . helmetsbm
Sep 7, 2002 4:29 PM
i agree about the 'being a postal fan' thing. i don't mind that people where the postal stuff. i wish i had enough money myself dress postal . . .

but, for example, i saw a guy today on the pch in Los angeles. traffic was heavy and pretty dangerous. and he had the postal gear on but wasn't wearing a helmet probably going 25mph. now, i understand that's a EURO thing. but to bike in traffic-heavy-Los Angeles. . . hmm . . . or maybe that guy wants to spend the rest of life retarted because of a little mishandling accident.

(true story: a guy was racing once and got tossed to dirt. someone came by and whacked his helmet with a speedplay pedal at probably 30 mph)
re: Delusional or coincidence?Lone Gunman
Sep 7, 2002 4:50 PM
No, don't have any prob with the team kit, but the ear buds had me scratching my head a bit. But the "we had Luke" comment went right over the top and just kept going...I guess it was a location thing, you had to be there and see it and experience it to get the full effect.
re: Delusional or coincidence?esb
Sep 7, 2002 5:19 PM
Oh I can't stop laughing. This made my day...

These postal guys are like the yuppy version of the people who dress all in Nascar garb and have numbers on the windows of their pickup trucks...
What's a plastic bike? nmfbg111
Sep 7, 2002 5:02 PM
What's a plastic bike? nmThe Human G-Nome
Sep 7, 2002 7:01 PM
i'm assuming he means the carbon fiber trek which are so in vogue right now.
nice to see a long thread without people attacking each other..VO2_max
Sep 8, 2002 9:09 AM
nice work.

Did anyone see the movie 'Heathers' the guy who burries his kid in acasket in his footbal uniform - helmet and all "I love my dead gay son" - quote from scene - too funny!

-Jason
nice to see a long thread without people attacking each other..The Human G-Nome
Sep 8, 2002 6:56 PM
i use that phrase all the time!

- i love my dead gay burrito.
- i love my dead gay job.
- i love my dead gay girlfriend.
- i love my dead gay muscle pull.
Difference between football jersey and pro bike kit is . . .SimonRex
Sep 8, 2002 11:31 AM
the fan wearing his fottball/baseball teams jersey/hat is not playing the sport. The cyclist wearing the team kit while riding is participating in the sport. Football jersey is ok, cycling team kit is POSER. I would guess the ones defending this are posers themselves. Wear whatever you want, but I will think you a poser. Carry on.
Do you get dropped all the time by posers or something? NMSpunout
Sep 8, 2002 1:26 PM
Road snobs?jtlmd
Sep 8, 2002 2:59 PM
Many times I've seen mountain bikers complain about "road snobs." Those of you spending so much time criticizing another's clothes are proving them right. Ease up and let people enjoy the sport in their own way.

I agree about the helmet and am disappointed when cyclists choose not to wear one.
As I said...Lone Gunman
Sep 8, 2002 6:41 PM
You had to be there and see and experience the whole scenario to get the full effect. Had he been just another biker wearing an ONCE full kit and riding a Giant TCR or whatever they ride and made the comment, it would have gone right over my head and I wouldn't have given it a second thought. But that wasn't what happened, it was almost surreal, like the guy was trying to live out a fantasy or something.
Difference between football jersey and pro bike kit is . . .bobobo
Sep 8, 2002 8:28 PM
Maybe guys in a Trek jersey think you are posing as a cyclist based upon your riding ability? LOL
..or posing as a generic, beard-wearing cycle-nazi?? (nm)Spunout
Sep 9, 2002 3:50 AM