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Campy versus Shimano(12 posts)

Campy versus Shimanodsweiss
Sep 6, 2002 8:20 PM
I have used shimano (combination of dura ace and ultegra) and love it. Have never really used Campy. I am trying to decide between Dura Ace and Record for a bike I am building up (Giant TCR). Does the shifting work on the same principle? Ignoring money for the time being, what are the differences in terms of performance and weight?
re: Campy versus ShimanoThe Human G-Nome
Sep 6, 2002 8:33 PM
maybe you can run a search for your answer. this topic has been discussed seemingly since the beginning of time, and certainly innumerable times on this board. the short answer? neither is better.

(although in reality, Campy rules!)
re: this forum should really have a FAQ (nm)collinsc
Sep 6, 2002 10:09 PM
or, people should make the effort to search a bit before postingrufus
Sep 7, 2002 6:46 AM
re: Campy versus ShimanoRaf1
Sep 7, 2002 12:18 AM
Buy Record for you Ultimate Bike, DA or Ultegra for anything else. To be honest with you, a TCR would probably NOT warrant Campy Record. Again, functionality-wise Ultegra, DA, Chorus and Record will be pretty much the same. Record has got the look and feel of nothing else but only if you have a frame that's worthy of it....then you know you're ready and cost will be no object...
re: Campy versus Shimanoweiwentg
Sep 7, 2002 3:59 AM
tell that to Joseba. the TCR may not have that classic Italian aura, but it's a great frame.
re: Campy versus ShimanoRaf1
Sep 7, 2002 10:37 AM
It is not about aura, there are plenty non-italian frames worthy of Record, it's just that I dislike TCR looks and wouldn't consider it an ultimate bike worthy of Record-sized splurge.

DA fits that frame perfectly in a function over form style. TCR is not a beautiful bike by any stretch but does its job and then some. Just like Shimano.

I just wouldn't be puttin Record on it.
Sep 7, 2002 6:18 AM
Sound of eyes rolling back in head and cranium hitting CRT.
re: Campy versus ShimanoAndy M-S
Sep 7, 2002 7:28 AM
Shifting works somewhat differently--Shimano shifters use two levers. The larger (aka the brake lever) is used to move the derailer to larger rings/cogs, while the smaller is used to release tension and drop to smaller rings/cogs.

Campy has a fixed brake lever, and right behind that a lever that is used to move to larger rings/cogs. Right where your thumb sits when you have your hands on the hoods is what some call a "mouse ear," a button that you can press to release tension and drop to smaller cogs/rings.

Which you like better is a matter of taste. There are things that recommend each system. I prefer Campy because the cables for the shifter as well as the brake are hidden, and because braking doesn't expose the shifter mechanism, as it does on Shimano. Campy Ergo levers can also be repaired/modified very inexpensively, which means that their short-term higher cost may be offset over the course of several years.

All Campy front shifters work for triples as well as doubles, and don't "index" in the same way as Shimano. They ratchet through several positions, which you can use to better trim the FD (though some may well prefer the Shimano "click 'n 'go" approach.

Differences in performance and weight are probably negligible. Anything 105 or better (Shimano) or Centaur or better (Campy) is so good it makes very little difference.

It is possible, BTW, to get 9- or 10-speed Campy Ergo levers to work with (respectively) Campy or Shimano derailers to shift a Shimano 9-speed drivetrain. Consequently, if you have a big investment in Shimano wheels, etc., and just want to play with different shifting, that's a possibility.
re: Campy versus ShimanoRaf1
Sep 7, 2002 10:40 AM
>if you have a big investment in Shimano wheels, etc., and >just want to play with different shifting, that's a >possibility.

Noooo, get a pair of Eurus wheels to go with it! Record with Shimano is wroooong! :)
Campy nazi alert! nmfbg111
Sep 7, 2002 4:16 PM
noticed a smiley?Raf1
Sep 7, 2002 7:13 PM
Still think a pair of Eurus wheels complement Record like nothing else...