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Is this legit?(17 posts)

Is this legit?ORJLH
Sep 5, 2002 7:40 AM
I recieved this reply to my ad in the classifieds but I really do not think I should play along, looks like I may be stuck holding the bag.

Thanks for the mail,i am o.k with your price.Inrespect of payment i have a client in the U.S who is owing me $11,200.All i need to do to make payment easier and faster is to instruct him to procure a cashiers check and mail it to you on the address and name you want on the check and you know it takes 24hrs for a cashiers check to clear in the U.S.But i would want to know if i can trust you to send my balance to me via western union money transfer after the money must have cleared in your bank to enable me prepay the shipping company here so that they can instruct their office in the U.S to come and pick the Bike from your location.pls mail me asap to enable me arrange payment .

Thanks,

Seun.
If it is legit, the guy is most definitely a moron.Quack
Sep 5, 2002 7:48 AM
Personally, I wouldn't get in the middle of any financial transaction between two other parties, especially dealing with someone across the ocean. He is trusting you to hold onto what, maybe $8-10k of his money for a while until you are comfortable sending it to him? He's either extremely wealthy or very naive.

My .02.
re: Is this legit?fbg111
Sep 5, 2002 7:51 AM
Sounds like a very sketchy way to do business. I'd wait for someone more normal to make an offer. But if you're really desperate to sell the bike, then tell him to have his client pay you the exact amount amount of the sale price (preferably by wire or transfer, not paper check), not $11,200, that you'll ship the bike when the check clears, and that you'll leave the ad in the classifieds until the check clears. You should handle shipping so you can verify that the bike actually got shipped where it is supposed to go and insure it, and so you don't have some rough "shipping company workers" coming to your house to pick up the bike. Add the shipping cost into the price. My $.02.
re: Is this legit?african
Sep 5, 2002 8:06 AM
sounds like a way to clean some dirty $$$ don't go for it, especially with overseas dealings.
good point. nmfbg111
Sep 5, 2002 10:44 AM
Oldest Con in the book- nmfiltersweep
Sep 5, 2002 8:09 AM
Not a chance.Spoke Wrench
Sep 5, 2002 8:11 AM
Lets see, you get a cashiers check from SOMEBODY who you don't know, then Western Union the balance to him. Then HE sends SOMEBODY who you don't know over to pick up the bike. When the whole thing falls apart in about 30 days you get stuck with no bike no money and maybe a $11,200 debit on your bank account.
LOKO MOBO needs your help too!klay
Sep 5, 2002 8:15 AM
Got this email (among the many others from the sons, daughters and widows of the late president Abacha etc...). Looks like he's in a similar but slightly larger boat than Suen. I'd say give him a wide berth.

DEAR FRIEND

MY NAME IS LOKO MABO, A STAFF OF CREDIT
AND FOREIGN BILLS OF NATIONAL BANK I AM WRITING IN
RESPECT OF A FOREIGN CUSTOMER OF MY BANK WITH
ACCOUNT NUMBER 14-255-2004/utb/t WHO PERISHED IN A
PLANE CRASH [ETHIOPIAN AIRLINE 961] WITH THE WHOLEPASSENGERS ABOARD .

SINCE THE DEMICE OF THIS OUR CUSTOMER I PERSONALLY HAS
WATCHED WITH KEEN INTEREST TO SEE THE NEXT OF KIN BUT
ALL HAS PROVED ABORTIVE AS NO ONE HAS COME TO CLAIM
HIS FUNDS OF USD.20.5 M, [ TWENTY MILLION FIVE
HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS]WHICH HAS BEEN
WITH MY BRANCH FOR A VERY LONG TIME .

ON THIS NOTE I DECIDED TO SEEK FOR WHOM HIS NAME SHALL
BE USED AS THE NEXT OF KIN AS NO ONE HAS COME UP TO
BE THE NEXT OF KIN. AND THE BANKING ETHICS HERE DOES
NOT ALLOW SUCH MONEY TO STAY MORE THAN FIVE YEARS ,
BECAUSE MONEY WILL BE RECALLED TO THE BANK TREASURY AS
UNCLAIMED AFTER THIS PERIOD. IN VIEW OF THIS I GOT
YOUR CONTACT THROUGH INTERNET SEARCH.I WILL GIVE YOU40% OF THE TOTAL.

UPON THE RECEIPT OF YOUR RESPONSE, I WILL SEND YOU BY
FAX OR E-MAIL THE APPLICATION, BANK'S FAX NUMBER AND
THE NEXT STEP TO TAKE . I WILL NOT FAIL TO BRING TO
YOUR NOTICE THAT THIS BUSINESS IS HITCH FREE AND THAT
YOU SHOULD NOT ENTERTAIN ANY FEAR AS ALL MODALITIES
FOR FUND TRANSFER CAN BE FINALIZED WITHIN FIVE BANKING
DAYS,AFTER YOU APPLY TO THE BANK AS A RELATION TO THEDECEASED.

SIGNIFYING YOUR DESCISION INCLUDING YOUR PRIVATE
TEL/FAX NUMEBRS FOR QUICK COMMUNICATION.RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,

LOKO MABO.

He didn't even saySpoke Wrench
Sep 5, 2002 8:39 AM
who I'm supposed to claim was my long lost uncle.
So does Eteh Beke..........RickC5
Sep 5, 2002 10:28 AM
I received this beauty last Tuesday. Same scam, different names.

Dear Sir,

I am Dr. Eteh Beke the personal Assistance to the late Nigerian Minister of Justice and the Attorney General of the Federal Chief Bola Ige, who was murdered on 23rd of December, 2001 by an unknown persons.

Before he became the minister of Justice and the Attorney General of the Federation, he was once the Minister of Mines and Power. During his time as a Minister of Mines and Power, the Federal Government of Nigeria gave to his ministry the sum of US$200 Million,which is to be used for the completion of the Ajaokuta Steel Industry and the purchasing of electrical transformers and cable for the Nigerian Electric Power Authority (NEPA). Then this jobs and
the supply of the transformers and cables were done, but of low quality standard and the transformers he imported was of low quality standard and of low power capacity.

Because of the low quality standard of this jobs, the sum of US$22 Million was realized of which he deposited US$15 Million to a security company in Europe looking for a reliable person or company he will transact business with, before he meet his un-timely death on the 23rd of December, 2001. He informed the security company about his foreign partner who will be coming to pick the money although no company's name was given to the security company
before he died it was only I and the late Chief Bola Ige knows about the money.

Therefore, if you can be trusted in fairness to your honesty to safe keep that money pending when I will be coming to meet you in your country. Please, if you are not interested with this business,kindly inform me as soon as you received this proposals. At the same time, if you are interested, kindly send me as a matter of urgency: your company's name and address, your private phone and fax number. This will be used to send to you the fund deposit certificate which you will use to claim the money from the Security
company.

I am awaiting to hear from you.

Best regard.

Dr. Eteh Beke
re: Is this legit?pmf1
Sep 5, 2002 8:19 AM
Yeah, I bet he's got a relative in Uganda who needs some help getting $8,000,000 in cash out of the country. Just give him your bank account routing number and he'll split it with you.

I get one of these about every week. Guess someone out there must fall for these.
This is a well documented scam and it works like this....gogene
Sep 5, 2002 8:43 AM
......you are sent a phoney cashiers check for $11,200. You are then asked to to send the 'balance' to him via Western Union. Western Union only accepts cash, so you have to withdraw the amount of the 'balance' from your bank. Meanwhile the "cashiers check" takes longer than you think to clear your bank. A week and a half later, after you have withdrawn the cash to send the 'balance' to the guy, the cashiers check turns out to be phoney, forged, not legitimate etc. Meanwhile you are out the dollars for the 'balance' and a hell a lot of aggravation. These schemes seem to originate overseas, primarily in Nigeria, but there are some hotbeds of this scam in other countries too. DON'T DO IT!!!
YupSpoke Wrench
Sep 5, 2002 8:57 AM
The thing I noticed is that he was real specific about exactly how you should send the money (Western Union) but pretty cryptic about everything on his end. Who is his US client? What bank is the cashiers check drawn on? Who is his shipping company who will pick up the bike? Why on earth would anybody do anything this way?
maybe you can take a cue from this...off roadie
Sep 5, 2002 8:51 AM
The pictures in the published article were priceless...

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.08/start.html?pg=4

April 2, 2002: Wendy receives a solicitation from someone claiming to be the widow of Mobutu Sese-Seko, dictator of the former Zaire. The missus needs help laundering $144 million. Wendy volunteers, posing as the CEO of Swollenutz Development Corporation. Will they take the bait?

April 8: Bingo! Someone claiming to be Timothy Sese-Seko, the dictator's son, emails Wendy. His family is destitute and his mother has cancer, he writes. They need help. If Wendy provides enough cash to pay off government officials, she'll get 20 percent of $100 million sealed in a Dutch bank. Wendy's reply: Sign me up.

April 9: Timothy zaps over a formal agreement, proposing that Wendy and a representative from his security firm meet in Amsterdam.

April 12: Wow, what a coincidence: One of Swollenutz's projects, a development called the Clap, is in Amsterdam. Wendy can attend to business and make the rendezvous. Timothy buys her story.

April 13: Wendy asks Timothy for a photo, claiming it will allay her fears about dealing with strangers. She sends him one first - it's doctored with chimp teeth and a mullet. Timothy's reply: "Thanks for your picture ... beautiful."

April 23: After a half-dozen more requests, Timothy sends a photo that looks as if it's been clipped from an old newspaper and scanned. "You are a very handsome man. Perhaps you could also meet me in Amsterdam," Wendy suggests. Is she flirting - or flirting with disaster?

April 29: Wendy, Timothy, and some Dutch lawyer named Wesley Stephens have exchanged 40 emails at this point. Finally, they agree that Wendy will meet Timothy's rep in front of an Amsterdam pharmacy on May 1. The spot is visible on a webcam overlooking the street. Wendy's trap is set.

May 1: Gotcha! As Wendy watches the webcam, two suits show up near the pharmacy. They wait in vain for a half hour. Later, Wendy points Timothy to willcoxinfo.bravepages.com/bankwire.htm. The message there: "KISS MY ASS!" He never replies.
Wake up, it's called money laundering. I bet it comes a littlePaul
Sep 5, 2002 9:17 AM
under 10,000. Can't believe he would go so far as trusting you to mail the balance.
It's a scam butgrandemamou
Sep 5, 2002 10:33 AM
it sure would be fun screwing with the guy just for S&G.
VERY IMPORTANT READ ASAPZermattbikes
Sep 5, 2002 2:50 PM
I got a similiar e-mail and shipped two bikes one supposedly for him and one for girlfriend, then I got another email that was quite as odd but odd never the less. Anyway bottom line is I got burned for 3 bikes at a time I really could not afford it. Don't do it!, no matter how much they ask or try to convince you. I promise you, you will lose.

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