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Atkins Diet ...chop off your toes(18 posts)

Atkins Diet ...chop off your toesDjudd
Sep 4, 2002 9:14 AM
This so-called diet seems dangerous and counter-intuitive. As a cyclist I am interested in nutrition and eating all that fat and protein is not nutrition. A big guy at my job went on this diet and lost weight without exercise or, in my view, sense. He soon gained it all back because he ate some bread (or something like, that I forget the particulars).
Not eating carbs to lose weight is like chopping off your toes so you can wear smaller shoes. Carbs serve several essential functions including providing essentials for brain function ( maybe this explains why so many models are on the Atkins diet). These folk don't want to pay the for their over-indulgence. If you are fat you are doing something wrong...you are not exercising enough to use the food you are eating. Eat less, exercise more...and eat more food that is good for you...simple.
One of the benefits of cycling and loving it is I (we) are aware of our bodies and don't have to play games to get that little spare tire off after winter. We ride more and eat less. Leave that dangerous stuff for the couch potato, eat right and ride your bike.
Riding more and eating can be just as dangerousPODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Sep 4, 2002 9:21 AM
The thing is riding more and eating less will deplete all your glycogen supplies and if you have no carbs to refuel then ketosis will occur as well making your body feast off of the body's fat (which is great) and protein (which is bad). Of course this does not get really serious until you take it to extremes but still people get misinformed and/or don't know what they are doing.

Out of curiousity is it possible to lose JUST fat and no muscle through eating a bit less?

Thanks,
Nick
PodiumBound.ca
eating less (nm)PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Sep 4, 2002 9:21 AM
Hasn't this been done everyday for the last week....thatsmybush
Sep 4, 2002 9:39 AM
Look you may not like, you may not understand it but the fact remains that the food pyramid we all know and love was brought to you by politicians not scientists.

Secondly, just a week ago crossfire did a piece on this and as a spokesperson for the Atkin's diet was a multiple finisher of the Kona Ironman. If he can swim 2.4 ride 112 and run a marathon without bonking perhaps the pat and easy answer of carbs equal energy needs to be looked into to a greater depth than that of an ashtray.

No diet works... This is a change in lifestyle. I know that my particular way of eating (paleo) is often looked as wierd but you know what I was a carb addict who could eat a bowl of pasta and an hour later I would have to chain myself down as to not attack the fridge.

If your naturally 6'0" 170 with 6% body fat my applause to you I was not I was on the carousel of loss and gain for many years.

Do the research read recent issues of Time, Newsweek etc. Many periodicals have been running stories about the flaws in the high carb diet.

Finally, give it a rest
Time, Newsweek, etc. is not research...Wayne
Sep 4, 2002 12:24 PM
go to Pubmed and do a search if you're interested in research. The biggest problem that scholars have with the Atkins diet, is that they make factual claims and haven't provided the evidence to support them.
Atkins Diet Successjromack
Sep 4, 2002 9:42 AM
I used the Atkins Diet to lose weight after an extensive layoff after I blew out my ACL.

The diet works, so does the theory behind it. The diet does NOT consist of NOT eating any carbs. There is an initial two week period where carbs are reduced to 20 grams per day. Then you slowly ramp up and eventually determine your "balance" point for carb intake. I now know my daily allotment of carbs. I adjust it for whatever mileage I plan to ride that day.

At no time during this diet did I feel my life was in danger. I did feel my waist getting smaller however.
Atkin's diet, enough already...Breakfast
Sep 4, 2002 11:25 AM
...not for cyclists, meant for sedentary overweight risk takers.
WRONG...jromack
Sep 4, 2002 1:26 PM
I am still on it and have finished 3 centuries this year (so far) and as of today have logged 2900 miles.

You don't go WITHOUT carbs, you take in the predetermined amount to maintain your weight. This includes adding extra carbs to perform long bike rides.

The diet is misunderstood by many self-proclaimed "experts".
AH-MENLone Gunman
Sep 4, 2002 4:46 PM
Why is it that people hear Atkins and immediately spout off crap that simply is not true? You ADJUST your carbo intake to the point where the balance has shifted to a 30/40/40 ratio of carbo/protein/fat. Exercising or not, no one is questioning if you cut out ALL carbos your body will eat itself alive. The diet and plans promoting this theory of weight control do not advocate eliminating carbos from your diet. Additionally, if you are an active cyclist and satisfied with your weight and body size, why the need to change your diet? On any given day we have enough carbo stores to run 2 marathons. Now could you physically do it? No you are not in shape for it. If these diets were so dangerous(as some love to point out) the FDA, CDC, and AMA would be running full page warnings of the dangers and the Lawyers would be coming out of the woodwork, just like that lardass that was suing fast food cos for making him fat.
WRONG... No!Breakfast
Sep 4, 2002 6:32 PM
Maybe exercise is misunderstood by many self proclaimed "experts".

Only for the fact that diet and nutrition and exercise is misunderstood is there a need for diets like the Atkin's.

So, is Atkins responsible for your 2900 miles? That's some real compelling anecdotal evidence for the diet, isn't it?

Maybe this subject can just go away or at least not be mentioned in the same breath as cycling.
Is Atkins responsible for your 2900 miles...YESjromack
Sep 5, 2002 7:25 AM
Learning that controlling carbs, not fat is the key to nutritional success has helped me control my weight and reach my goals this year.

By the way, Lance Armstrong weighs all of his food and eats specific amounts of each of the food groups. I do the EXACT same thing on the Atkins Diet.
Yea, just like wearing helmets, using mirrors,and blinker lightsLone Gunman
Sep 4, 2002 4:52 PM
"Sedentary overweight risktakers"; this from a moron who suggested that helmets, mirrors and blinky lights were a false sense of security a few weeks ago.
How bout them arteriesBig D
Sep 4, 2002 11:46 AM
Didn't Dr. Atkins have a heart attack a few months ago??
There's losing weight and being healthy, Atkins make them...Djudd
Sep 4, 2002 12:13 PM
mutually exclusive.
can we give this a rest?cyclopathic
Sep 4, 2002 2:37 PM
get over!
5'11"- 165lbs- 6% body fat--------- 8) sorry. (nm)stik__boy
Sep 4, 2002 3:55 PM
You pig! ;-)grzy
Sep 4, 2002 4:19 PM
170lbs >> 148lbs this year ....Marcocyclo
Sep 5, 2002 8:47 AM
and i was never starving. At 5'10" and about 11%bf but I ride a lot, lift weights, some running and lowered calorie intake some too. Only careful not eating too many carbs than needed did it for me.

marco