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Seven Axiom -Ti vs Serotta Legend(19 posts)

Seven Axiom -Ti vs Serotta Legendmrod
Sep 4, 2002 7:14 AM
Currently riding an 11-year old Davidson Impulse and I'm about to commit some $$ on a "lifetime" ride...narrowed choice to the Axiom and Legend. It's been tough trying to get a test ride of each where I can compare at same time. 'Preciate any experiences/insights into these two bikes....

BTW, has anyone ridden the Legend w/ the ST carbon stays?
re: Seven Axiom -Ti vs Serotta Legendbikeridah
Sep 4, 2002 7:43 AM
I would suggest checking out the message board on Serotta's website. A search on "Seven Axiom" will turn up a host of threads about opinions from riders who've ridden/owned both bikes.

Good luck.
re: Seven Axiom -Ti vs Serotta Legendjtolleson
Sep 4, 2002 8:59 AM
The price difference between the two is not small, and IMO, the two are of comparable quality. Is paint important to you? Then lean Serotta. Otherwise, it is hard to beat the Axiom.
And, do not let others...PsyDoc
Sep 4, 2002 10:57 AM
...tell you that Serotta builds a better bike while Seven has had some Q/C issues. True, Seven has had some Q/C issues in the past, but they are being/have been addressed. Serotta also has Q/C issues as well. Over on the Serotta website right now, two people have had problems with the alignment of their dropouts. Apparently, either the left or right stay was bent inward more so that the other that led to the wheel not setting properly. One of the frames was a Legend Ti and the other was an Ottrott.
how about not buying either? lots of good stuff out there (nm)ColnagoFE
Sep 4, 2002 11:47 AM
re: Seven Axiom -Ti vs Serotta LegendSilas_Greenback
Sep 4, 2002 12:42 PM
To get the ideal answer, you would need to find someone who owns both bikes, and that should prove a tall order. I love my five week old Seven Axiom with 800 miles on it; it fits like a glove, absorbs shock better than my old Litespeed, and is stiffer besides. I never rode a Serotta, but a test ride versus weeks or months of ownership really does not tell you which bike is going to be "better" for you. If you are willing to go to the trouble, time and money being of no account, you could go through the measurement and specification phases with both companies and see whose bike seems likelier to meet your needs, at least on paper. I do not think you will go wrong either way, and certainly not with the Seven. Last bike I intend to buy, barring some unbelievable breakthrough in technology or my cycling abilities.
"Last bike I intend to buy"Fez
Sep 4, 2002 1:08 PM
You may think that to justify the huge purchase today, but you know that's not really going to be the case. Unless you plan on living a very short life :P
"Last bike I intend to buy"Silas_Greenback
Sep 4, 2002 5:31 PM
The mortality tables say I have 26 years of life expectancy. The last bike lasted 10 years and did not fit right. The bike is made of titanium and made to my measurements; what more could a mortal want?
Two Turtlesgrzy
Sep 4, 2002 1:07 PM
It's like two turtles sitting in the mud arguing about the color. I love my Legend, my wife loves her Holland, my buddy loves his Axiom, my other buddy loves his Odonata. I've worked on all of them and done brief test rides. They all fit their owners perfectly, provide countless hours of pure riding pleasure and are top quality products. Who is to say which is really best and on what basis? If you want to make a real determination then *you* must test ride the bikes in question which is a very difficult thing to do. Otherwise you're either running a populatiry contest or trying to make a fashion statement - which is fleeting at best. Next month something else will be oh so hot. It's a tough choice, but they're good choices and you really can not go wrong.
yeah, but...gtx
Sep 4, 2002 4:21 PM
Serotta has cooler dropouts
Check Independent FabricationMauceri
Sep 4, 2002 6:43 PM
Check out the IF Crown Jewel. It is right up there with the Serotta and Seven. Real Nice.
I have seen and held this bike and it isLazywriter
Sep 4, 2002 6:56 PM
really unremarkable. People have a hard on for it because there are so few of them, but it is a very ugly and dull looking bike with nothing special about it. It looks like early ti bikes. Similar to Moots in that there is no style at all yet nothing in its design that makes its special. I can see if it were a simple understated frame but wiht at least some unique design quality.
It may ride very nicely, but go one of the others, at least they are pretty to look at.
never ridden one, never built one up, but still...gtx
Sep 4, 2002 7:19 PM
you comment on it. You know what's what is special about Moots and IF? They are top notch in terms of quality. Ask any framebuilder what they think of Moots or IF, or anyone who wrenches in shops and has assembled them, or anyone who owns one and rides one. It's a very competitive market--these builders didn't get their rep for nothing. Personally I think IF is a bit on the pricey side, but they have a great product and have a very cool business model and don't seem to have any problem selling bikes. Moots has a distinctive finish, crazy-nice welds and cool Breezer-style dropouts. If you don't like their aesthetics, that's fine, but why knock them--especially if you really have no experience with them?
I didn't question the ride qualityLazywriter
Sep 4, 2002 7:34 PM
of you read my post again. It is a titanium bike and riding it will not be unlike all other ti bikes with similar tubes and design. Sorry, but I have ridden a lot of them and they all have more similarities than differences. They are very boring and that is an observable fact. IF isn't a top ti frame company. The Crown Jewel is a nice bike, but I wouldn't buy their ti for such a high price.
Sep 4, 2002 7:59 PM
I like itgtx
Sep 4, 2002 9:14 PM
Looks classic and clean to me. No hype. The kind of bike you wouldn't get sick of. Kind of like my '95 Ibis Mojo, my '90 Merckx, my '85 Bontrager cross frame... I don't need any bells and whistles. Just a good solid ride that will last. If I had the $$$ for a new frame, it would probably be near the top of my list (somewhere below Richard Sachs). But to be honest if I was gonna get a IF I'd probably get steel and get a Club Racer.
And it's not race p.p..p....p....tirider
Sep 4, 2002 9:16 PM
...proven like a Litespeed Vortex.
Have the steel Seven Axiom..Mauceri
Sep 5, 2002 5:32 AM
It is sweet.
re: Seven Axiom -Ti vs Serotta LegendTraveller
Sep 4, 2002 6:48 PM
If you want a Ti bike go for Spectrum, Tom Kellog will personally fit you.