|Help me chose a road bike||zoomservo|
Sep 4, 2002 4:54 AM
|Hello out there,
Please give me some advice - I'm trying to buy my first roadbike (I've done a fair amount of mtbiking) I'm 5'10, 200 lbs and want a bike I can have for a long time, grow with and learn to race on (I also want to keep up with all the fast guys in Central and Prospect Park here in NYC).
I don't make much money but am willing to invest about $2k in a good bike. I really want to go carbon or Ti (aluminum beats the heck out of me) and I have the opportunity to buy several bikes online (my LBS is way too expensive - but that means I can't try these out): a slightly used Kestrel 200csi with kyserium SSLs, chris king and full dura ace (with 175 cranks and really low gearing for $2,500 (way over budget), a brand new Kestrel Talon with full Ultegra and Mavic Cosmos for $2,100, or a brand new Airborne Zepplin with full Ultegra/Ksyriums for $2,400.
Which one should I buy? Or do you have other recommendations? Thanks!
|re: Help me chose a road bike||zoomservo|
Sep 4, 2002 5:05 AM
|BTW - the used Kestrel is 56cm. The Talon comes as a 55cm (I'm worried its too flexy) and the Zepplin 56...
|re: Help me chose a road bike||jtolleson|
Sep 4, 2002 5:12 AM
|Well, they are all over your budget, really, so the question is ... how much do you want to stretch you $$? And will you still need any accessories (esp. shoes and pedals?).
Secondly, have you really really really done your fit homework? Buying a road bike online when it is your first bodes risk in the fit department.
Next... why Ksyriums? You are blowing a huge chunk of your budget on a wheelset that, though very nice (and very nice to look at), does not justify being 1/3 of your total expense (IMO). Put Mavic OPs on the Airborne, for example, and I'm assuming the price drops below $2000.
If you are committed to buying via the 'net, I'd check out the Douglas through Colorado Cyclist (they even have screaming deals on Litespeed closeouts from time to time) and the Macalu through Excel Sports.
|Pretty hard to fit someone on the internet.||djg|
Sep 4, 2002 5:37 AM
|It seems to me that the used Kestrel is overpriced--both relative to the price of new Kestrels (have you checked R&A?) and relative to the fact that you can get a brand new, fully warrantied Trek 5200 for 2500 bucks (and have a shop fit you and give you a test ride to boot). Yeah, the Ks are nice, but I wouldn't let them determine the purchase.
Second, if you're dead set on going over the internet, I'd consider paying 50 bucks for a good fit session first. Then you might consider a custom landshark through GVH bikes (right at 2k) or maybe steel (or ti) from Dean or ti from Sampson. I believe that Anvil will also build up a custom bike for 2k. Also, I think you're within the price range of the budget Serotta, which probably comes with a fit session included, as well as shop support.
There are some very good deals on the net, but you really need to know what you want before you jump.
Sep 4, 2002 6:42 AM
|The best thing going for you is there is no way you're going to get a crappy bike in ~$2000 price range. You get the most bang for the buck at this price point.
You got some really good advice above. I do agree with DJG above about the fit. Go down to Bicycle Renaissance and have them do the fit for you on the Serrotta fitting jig they got there. $50 bucks or so is small potatoes for peace of mind, especially if you're buying over the internet. DO IT!!
There are some excellent steel frames in your price range some might provide custom fitting. Steelman, Anvil, Dean, etc... Excel has Ritchey and Gios frames. JT is right about Colorado Cyclist too. The Douglas Ti frame would fit your budget. Might I suggest a Tommasini Sintesi? It's a fine bike. JT is also right about the wheels, skip the Ksyriums for now and wait till next year. They are too expensive, you'll get a lot more bike by skipping this luxury.
Sep 4, 2002 3:14 PM
|if you concider how many good steel bikes 1500$ can buy it is hard to justify. Personally for non-racer I'd go for olde lagged steel looks + triples like Mercian, there're tons of good TIG-weld frames too.|
|Spend the first $40 on a fitting||Me Dot Org|
Sep 4, 2002 7:18 AM
|Fit is to cycling what location is to Real Estate. The most important 'component' of a bicycle is how it fits the rider. A $500 bike that fits is better than a $5,000 one that doesn't.
See if there is a local bike shop with a Serotta Fit System in your area. (That doesn't mean you have to buy a Serotta). Then start looking for bikes that have geometry suggested by the fitting.
|Please excuse me, but I think you're nuts!. Minor rant to follow||MXL02|
Sep 4, 2002 10:40 AM
|You and I are the same size, and I can assure you, you do not need a Ti or CF bike. The weight and ride advantages are not necessary and certainly not worth the extra cost. If I were you I would buy a Torelli Corsa Strada or a Cinelli Super Corsa frame and fork and build it up with Campy Chorus...this will cost <$2000 and can last you a lifetime...race on it, cruise on it, tour on it, whatever. Another alternative may be a Lemond.
But, I think buying an Airborne or Kestrel especially a used one, especially when you weigh 200lbs,especially when you really don't have the money, is just crazy!