Sep 3, 2002 4:12 PM
|In the last 2 weeks I have gone through 4 saddles here is the list.
Pro link - a bit too wide did not like the shape.
SLR trans am - the shape was good but I hated the cut out especially the top part of the cut out closest to the nose of the saddle which put a lot of pressure on the private parts.
San Marco Era - while the saddle was reasonably soft, the saddle itself was far too wide in the nose, my inner thighs kept rubbing against it all the time. I especially despised the stitching which chaffed my a$$.
Fizik Pave - at the moment the saddle on my bike. The shape is a good one for me at least anyway, but it seems a bit hard and I don't know if it will be comfortable for long rides.
SLR XP - just ordered one from saddlesore.com (rather appropriate name if you ask me) hopefully this will be the perfect one.
|re: Saddle nightmare.||The Human G-Nome|
Sep 3, 2002 4:32 PM
|not saying it would work for you, but i love my San Marco Arami Gel. the best seat i've ridden so far for short or long distances.|
|Check out Koobi saddles.........||gogene|
Sep 3, 2002 4:52 PM
|..at http://www.koobi.com I like the full length cutout. It allows me to raise the nose of the saddle slightly so everything is kept in place. Plus they have a 30 day 'comfort' guarantee. If you click on 'saddles' there is a chart that show the relative softness of their saddles. Because I didn't enjoy collecting saddles in my search for a good one, I called Koobi, 877-ride-Koobi, and talked to Phil Schweizer, the owner. Based on what I told him of the saddles that I liked and didn't like, he made a recommendation and I bought that one. So far I have done several centuries this year on my Koobi and it remains very comfortable.|
|try the fly||avitar|
Sep 3, 2002 5:12 PM
|Why not try the Terry Fly? I just switched from the San Marco ERA (after trying it for 500+ miles) and have ridden on 3 40-50 mile rides.. it is definately more comfortable for me. I got the Ti.... they also have the Terry Fly Gel.
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|Get it now, or get it later, but....||coonass|
Sep 3, 2002 5:26 PM
|get a Brook's Swift.....|
|Get it now, or get it later, but....||DINOSAUR|
Sep 3, 2002 5:57 PM
|That's what I would do also. I get tired of buying a new saddle every couple of years. Why not just go with a leather saddle and you will never complain about comfort again...weighs a couple of grams more, but worth it in the long run....|
|Why do you recommend the swift? nm||MXL02|
Sep 3, 2002 6:20 PM
|Why do you recommend the swift? nm||DINOSAUR|
Sep 4, 2002 9:25 AM
|The Swift is the racing version of the Brooks leather saddles, has ti rails. I have a Brooks Pro, I was all set to put in on my Master X-Light last night to replace the Sella Italia Gel Flite that is starting to show some wear after only 4 months, but the problem is the length of the rails and I can't get it to dial in with the geometry of my bike for my preferred saddle position. The leather saddles weigh a tad more, but they conform to your anatomy after a period of time for a custom fit and a leather saddle will last a good ten years or more....but I'm also a semi weight weenie and try to lighten my bike as much as feasible...so it's catch 22...the Brooks would be a good saddle for long distance riding...but I think part of the answer is a good pair of riding shorts...IMHO|
|Hey Dino ...||bianchi boy|
Sep 4, 2002 6:29 PM
|I have the same problem with my Gios and was unable to use a Brooks saddle because the rails weren't long enough to move it back as much as needed. If you would still like a leather saddle, check out the Lepper saddles sold at Harris Cyclery and www.bikeusa.com. They have ti rails and are actually lighter than the Swift, and cost $30-50 less. I have an older steel version of the Lepper and the rails are very long, allowing the most setback of any saddle I have seen. Unfortunately, I bought mine used and it apparently was damaged as the undercarriage broke after putting about 2000 miles on it. I sent an email to Sheldon Brown about this and he said the steel Leppers were prone to breaking but not the ti ones.
In the meantime, I ordered a Koobi Enduro saddle because I figured I had nothing to lose with their 30-day return policy. I have only ridden on the saddle twice, but so far it is very comfortable. It has more padding than a Flite Transam but less than a Terry Fly, so it is just right for me. It is also wider than the Flite and Terry saddles, and less expensive (although it's made for Koobi by Selle Italia).
|Thanks for the info...||DINOSAUR|
Sep 5, 2002 8:29 AM
|I'll look into the Lepper with ti rails. The main problem with the Sella Italia Gel Flite is wear. I just started to apply some Kiwi black wax shoe polish to it and it comes out looking like brand new. You'd think they would have a cover that was more durable...sort of like my beef with Look cleats....nothing is more comfortable than an all leather saddle..I am lusting...
thanks for the input
|You might also try the Koobi||tarwheel|
Sep 5, 2002 11:01 AM
|Koobi has a 30-day return policy, so you have nothing to lose (other than shipping costs) if it doesn't work out. The rails on my Koobi are situated so I can move it further back than I can with Selle Italia saddles (although Selle Italia makes the Koobis). They have a very good sizing/comfort chart on their website that helps in picking the right model. I actually wanted to order the Silver, which is plain black leather, but they were all out of them. So I ordered the Enduro, which is similar but with Kevlar edges. The Enduro is wider than Selle Italia TransAm Max saddles as well as the Terry Fly, but has a similar cutout in the center. It has more padding than the TransAm but less than the Fly. |
BTW, Harris Cyclery (Sheldon Brown's shop) has black as well as natural color Lepper saddles for $120. Bikeusa.com has only the natural color, but for $100. My Lepper was natural and it developed a nice "honey" color when broken in, although I would have preferred black.
|Princess and the pea...-nm||filtersweep|
Sep 3, 2002 5:43 PM
|If the pave shape suits you, your butt will quicken to the||bill|
Sep 3, 2002 5:49 PM
|challenge (probably). I always liked the pave. The relatively narrow nose gave my thighs some room to work.
After getting used to it, it was great. I have done centuries and a 340 miles/four days tour and it was fine.
I've been using a fizik Aliante recently, and it's a bit softer. At first I thought it was too soft, but it's growing on me, and now the pave seems a bit hard. Don't underestimate adjustment.
|salsa zona tres is a possibility.||aet|
Sep 4, 2002 8:00 AM
|i switched to that from a san marco era and it is great. no cutout but it has a recessed area to keep the pressure off.|
|re: Saddle nightmare.||grzy|
Sep 4, 2002 8:25 AM
|Gotta work with things a bit more. Four saddles in two weeks isn't enough time on any one to determine if you have it set up correctly. A huge factor is where that saddle is positioned - fore and aft, up and down and tilt. This also assumes that you are correctly fit on your bike. You could have the right saddle but if you don't have the basics correct then even it will feel like a cinder block. The other thing to consider is that with all of the rubbing and chaffing you are probably hyper sensitive right now and just about everything is going to feel bad. |
My suggestion would be to work with a high end LBS that can evaluate your bike fit first. Nothing even matters until you have this right and you need some one with a fair amount of expertise and objectivity. A Certified Serotta Fit Specialist isn't a bad place to start but there are others. Be willing to pay for their time. Another factor to consider is that your butt needs to get accustomed to the saddle and vice versa. This takes time and miles. What can feel hard and harsh at first can become quite comfy in time. conversely something that is nice and cushy can become a real problem on longer rides.