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Installing cassettes on Ksyriums(15 posts)

Installing cassettes on KsyriumsAztecs
Sep 3, 2002 3:43 PM
Got a pair of SSC SLs (for Shimano). Need to remove the cassette on my old wheel and put it on this one. My question is what do I do with the black disc and silver washer on the SL? Do I use these? Could not really tell by the instructions. I have a Shimano 105 cassette that I want to put on.

Thanks for any help!
Az
re: Installing cassettes on Ksyriumsfiltersweep
Sep 3, 2002 4:12 PM
That black disc was an enigma: it seems to function as a spacer- but I really didn't want anything resembling a spoke guard- but I kept it anyway, and it worked... I can't remember what I did with the washer, but I doubt it is thick enough to screw up the indexing. The directions were not much help. My hub came with some odd rubber gizmos that appeared to be superfluous spacers (according to what I could decipher- and I didn't use them).
ditch the spoke protector and install the spacer (nm)jeph
Sep 3, 2002 4:27 PM
DON"T ditch the SPOKE PROTECTOR!!!Fausto
Sep 3, 2002 4:42 PM
Word to the wise-

Mavic will not warranty the wheel if you drop your chain without the protector and Feng Shui the wheel.

You can still look cool and have it on.
My point exactlyfiltersweep
Sep 3, 2002 5:38 PM
It attaches directly to the hub and not the spokes, on a relatively "high-end" wheel, and it is quite unobtrusive... makes one think they really want people to use them. It's not like the wheels also come with REFLECTORS.
..will reflectors fit okay on those bladed spokes??;-)......(nm)Spunout
Sep 3, 2002 6:29 PM
Some do come with reflectors,TJeanloz
Sep 4, 2002 5:46 AM
Ksyriums that are spec'd with complete bikes come with ugly orange reflectors. All complete bikes are required by law to include reflectors, unless they are for 'off-road racing only'.
how much weight does that add! (nm)ColnagoFE
Sep 4, 2002 6:50 AM
So the washer is not needed?Aztecs
Sep 4, 2002 6:06 AM
If I get this straight, the spoke protector is optional (although there may be some warranty issues). But what about the washer? This is not needed I guess?

Thanks
dependsDougSloan
Sep 4, 2002 6:18 AM
As I understand it, the washer is needed on Shimano hubs, but not Campy. The spoke protector has no spacer function. I would never, ever, ever, ride a bike with a spoke protector. Sorry, my fragile serious-biker-ego just cannot be stretched quite that thin. If your's can, more power to ya.

Doug
You are right. From Mavic...Aztecs
Sep 4, 2002 7:14 AM
Ksyrium SSC SL:

Compatibility with 9 speed HG derailleur
- It is necessary to leave the positionning wedge (I guess this is the washer I was referring to??) delivered with the wheel on the freewheel body.
- Then mount a Shimano 9 speed cassette.

Az
How?filtersweep
Sep 4, 2002 11:19 AM
Explain how it does not function as a spacer if it is attached to the hub (not the spokes)- whether being a spacer is the intended purpose or not.

Ride with it- ride without it: I don't really care, and I'm not saying it can't be done either way... and it is about the same size as the largest cog anyway (unlike a clear plastic protector)... I just didn't see anything resembling a "wedge" when I was installing mine.
How?pmf1
Sep 4, 2002 11:25 AM
Its a metal washer, silver in color, that fits around the cassette body.
How?DougSloan
Sep 4, 2002 12:00 PM
The spoke protector does not function as a spacer, because the inner part of it is slotted and sits in little slots in the hub body; hard to describe, but it certainly serves no spacer function.

The metal ring is a spacer, but completely distinct from the spoke protector.

Doug
Definitely needed.pmf1
Sep 4, 2002 9:46 AM
With the Shimano version anyway. Otherwise there is space when the cassette lock nut is fastened and it jingles around too close to the spokes.

I'm always in fear of losing this spacer. I tend to forget about it when I sometimes swap cassettes when cleaning the bike. Anyone know if spares can be found anywhere?

I too would never use a spoke protector. If your bike is tuned properly, there is no need for it. High on the doofus factor scale as well. I'd remove it right after yanking the reflectors on any new bike. I may someday be a road pancake, but dammit, at least I'll be stylish.