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DeRosa King....Emperor's New Clothes?(14 posts)

DeRosa King....Emperor's New Clothes?ColnagoFE
Sep 3, 2002 6:48 AM
I thought the price of a C-40 was obscene, but then here comes the DeRosa King for $3995 for Frame and Fork only! And at 3 lbs 8oz it's about exactly the same weight as a C-40 once you include the fork except the C-40 is about $1k less. Is this an example of marketing to someone who has to have the most expensive production bike made? I suppose a contender would be the Serotta Ottrott.
yes.MXL02
Sep 3, 2002 7:33 AM
I am convinced that the road bike lust frenzy has reached ludicrous proportions...how many people really need a $6000 sub-18lb roadbike?
re: DeRosa King....Emperor's New Clothes?Me Dot Org
Sep 3, 2002 8:15 AM
Let's face it: for round $2k, you can get 90-95% of a $4-6k bike. If you are a recreational rider, what's the point of spending more?

Having said that, I must plead guilty to having close to $3k in my current ride. The rationalization: Custom fit. But with spacers and stems, you can dial in an off-the-rack unless you have an extemely unusual physique.

For a recreational rider, the first $2k is mostly about the bike. The next $2-4k is mostly about ego.
the 10% solutionET
Sep 3, 2002 11:10 AM
I always wonder what the common expression "90-95% of another bike" means. If it means it'll take you across the finish line 5-10% slower than the other bike (or, to be mathematically accurate, that the other bike will cross 5.3%-11.1% faster), that's pretty bad. So, what does it mean exactly?
re: DeRosa King....Emperor's New Clothes?pmf1
Sep 3, 2002 8:41 AM
I recall seeing that the King was that weight for a 47 cm frame which makes it a bit more than "exactly the weight of a C-40". Most Look carbon bikes are not exactly light weight by current weenie standards.

Yeah, I agree the price is ridiculous. Then again, how much is a custom Seven or Serrotta these days? Or the Litespeed whateveritscalled bike? Its easy to spend $4000 for a frame and fork.
re: DeRosa King....Emperor's New Clothes?pinarello
Sep 3, 2002 8:54 AM
Gulity by association but not by price. Yep after 12 yrs on steel I own one. And put campy christmas lights on. She is fastttttttttttttt!! Catapult

PS My son rides a Prince. Any one know where I can get a Queen! For the wifeee.
re: DeRosa King....Emperor's New Clothes?mackgoo
Sep 3, 2002 3:25 PM
How is it? I plan on getting one when I can pick a used one up in a year or two.
re: DeRosa King....Emperor's New Clothes?pinarello
Sep 4, 2002 5:59 AM
Agile. Very Agile. It's like a spring board for acceleration. It has a Cloud nine ride. But it let's you know that you are in comand of it. The paint scheme is not loud but subtle, stealthy like Darth Vader. Got that high heel black stalkings look. Ahhh! It's not going to be you who notices the difference in your power but your riding partners. It's just that smooth and EFFICIENT. The carbon really knocks the road noise, vibration, and bumps down to a ant hill. The negative part. Took 7 months to get. But I did not pay no 4k and wasn't even close. And getting one from Maestro well I tried and I was so far down the list that they could not even put a time to it. Catapult
re: DeRosa King....Emperor's New Clothes?CT1 Guy
Sep 3, 2002 9:25 AM
You can buy one for <$2500 in Europe - suggest you ask Sinclair Imports why they're screwing you? They're actually cheaper than most of the Litespeed range.
I was only quoting the Colorado Cyclist price-frame/fork (nm)ColnagoFE
Sep 3, 2002 9:56 AM
Sinclair Imports = Thievesfurnace
Sep 3, 2002 12:01 PM
CT1 Guy is exactly correct. Why pay $4k when you can get the DR King from the UK for $2200. See:

http://www.maestro-uk.com/
Wrong question leads to wrong answers...5ive
Sep 3, 2002 10:33 AM
IMHO, weight should have 'almost' nothing to do with the price of bikes. To me, it simply does not mean anything as long as they fall within the reasonable range. Anything DeRosa+Carbon+New is not going to be cheap. Why? Because there are people willing to buy one for that price. Maybe not you and not me, but someone who can or wants it badly enough. I would never pay what Litespeed wants for Ghisallo, but would gladly purchase Richard Sachs if I could afford it (I've ridden both).
re: DeRosa King....Emperor's New Clothes?mackgoo
Sep 3, 2002 1:55 PM
You can get them from Maestro for 2K. Colorado Cyclist will charge what ever they can get.
A great alternative to the C-40...Iwannapodiumgirl
Sep 3, 2002 3:10 PM
it is a compact frame and not a Colnago! I'd swim to the other side of the world for both qualities!