|Do you roll forward when you let go of your handlebars?||GMS|
Aug 30, 2002 3:13 PM
|I've been playing with my seat position and got it somewhat more comfortable, but I am now realizing that it is probably because my weight is being shared by my arms instead of just my butt.
Rivendell says that you should not need your handlebars to keep you from falling forward. Now, I do. So, I'm planning on putting my seat back or up (up is inherently back, anyway), but I also know that most people don't follow Rivendell's advice.
So, how many of you like your seat forward enough to fall into your handlebars? Is this more for Time Trial?
|I took Riv's advice, too--but I still roll forward||cory|
Aug 30, 2002 3:35 PM
|I built my Atlantis following Grant's advice, and it's really comfortable. The frame's a hair small (64cm was the biggest they made at the time; his fit guide says I'd ride a 65 or 66), but I used a tall Nitto stem and got the bars essentially level with the B-17. I can ride MUCH longer without discomfort than I could before.
When I take my hands off the bars, though, I still flop forward. I try not to think about it.
|It's all about you||Kerry|
Aug 30, 2002 3:49 PM
|and the strength of your abdominal muscles. Some people can lean way forward at the waist and not fall forward, others cannot maintain their position to save themselves. In that way, maybe Rivendell's advice is appropriate. If you have weak abs, you're probably not ready for a more aggressive stance on the bike. Also, it doesn't seem like the fore/aft position of the seat is the determinining factor here. I would think it would be the drop from saddle to bars. If you have a large drop, then taking your hands off the bars would tend to make you fall forward. If you are sitting more upright, this tendency is reduced. Some people are comfortable with more weight on their hands, others can't tolerate much. This all ties together to get the right position on the bike for YOU, not for the rest of us.|
|Fore/Aft plays a very big role||Ray Sachs|
Aug 30, 2002 4:46 PM
|relative seat and handlebar height does to, but a rearward butt offsets your upper body weight and takes a lot of weight off of your hands/arms. Check out Peter White's fit article:
Scroll down to "fore aft saddle position" for a much better explanation than I'm prepared to give.
BTW, my butt is well back and I can take my hands off of the bars without falling forward, even when in a pretty aero position.
|Oooh, oooh, I think that's it...thanks.||cory|
Aug 30, 2002 7:26 PM
|I thought about moving my saddle back this spring, but then sort of forgot about it. Since I read White's explanation, it's sounding good again. Thanks for the link.|
Aug 31, 2002 9:30 AM
|Fore/aft is the thing I set up first, and my position relative to the cranks is the same on all my bikes. It is farther back than the KOPS position--I can't get my positon on bikes with steep STAs--and it works out to be the position where my butt wants to be when I'm riding no hands. My bars are very low, but it you pulled them away I wouldn't flop forward at all--I am very relaxed and have almost no weigh on my hands. And I don't have especially strong abs, either...|
|only as I fall nm||bic|
Aug 31, 2002 7:08 PM
|no-hands aero tuck||off roadie|
Aug 31, 2002 7:32 PM
|Not quite, but I can dang nearly do it, at least when sprinting. Its basically the same posture you'd use when speed skating- it even helps to pump your arms. I find it help me to catch my breath.
My butt does seem to take most of my weight. I have a hard time finding comfy saddles. My hands almost never get sore, except on the road bike. I have pretty good core strength, no back problems, and long arms and torso for my height.