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Pedals: In search of the Holy Grail!(15 posts)

Pedals: In search of the Holy Grail!filtersweep
Aug 22, 2002 5:40 AM
I'm getting sick of "trying" different pedals- I'm on my third set in a year, and am still not happy. I'm currently using Ultegra SPD-Rs, but the bearings in the right pedal are going out... it is subtle, but it is like a pebble in my shoe- drives me nuts as I feel the tiny graininess to the pedal stroke. Also, steel cleats chew these things up, and the left pedal simply does not look pretty. I do like how "low" the shoe/cleat sits on the pedal, but other than that, they are nothing special.

I'm contemplating Looks, but am a bit baffled. First of all (as if I'd ever pay that much for their CX carbon pedal), what is the big deal with their carbon pedal? It really isn't much lighter than their entry level 206... or a SPD-R pedal- yet if you hold it in your hand it feels feather-light. Carbon has a weird property of always feeling lighter than it really is (same with bars, seatposts, etc...). Anyway, do Look pedals STILL squeak? Does anyone use all their "adjustability" ? Do they stay looking nice for any length of time (with the plastic cleats), or does road grime become permanently bonded with the pedal platform? Do they become all scratched up? Do the bearings hold up? Is the "squeak issue" all it is built up to be?

All I want it a large cleat platform, a reliable pedal (getting in and out- and good bearings), relatively lightweight, easy to find parts/cleats, pedals that will maintain a decent appearance over time, and the feeling that the shoe is part of the crank... is that too much to ask?

It's like the old rule: You want a reliable car. You want a great performing car. You want a reasonably priced car. Now pick any two of the above. (or something like that)
I think Campy Pro Fit would work for you (nm)ColnagoFE
Aug 22, 2002 5:52 AM
Looky heregs6769
Aug 22, 2002 6:15 AM
I'm down heavily with the Look 206. Light, strong, reasonably priced and NO 'Look squeak' due to their composite construction. It's the aluminum Looks that squeak. Appearance wise, they'll get a bit scuffed at the cleat/pedal contact points but IMO nothing unusual for a "high wear" bicycle part. I quite like the large platform and have always found the float to be just right. As far as durability goes, I'm using a pair with 5500+ miles and they're smooth as silk.
Looky herefiltersweep
Aug 22, 2002 7:24 AM
I was contemplating the 206- ironically they are as light as it gets. I don't mind scuffs, but I'm not wanting to spend a bunch of money on yet another pedal system that will be gouged up by design. The 206 also seems rather no-nonsense... I mean how adjustable does a pedal really need to be?

The Looks all appear like they sit much higher above the spindle than other brands... is that accurate or an illusion?
Looky heregs6769
Aug 22, 2002 7:55 AM
I think the 206 is about as no b/s as there is in a pedal. I've always been plenty happy with their adustability and it's tough to beat their price, especially considering their durability.

Hmmm, not sure about height above the spindle but I would think it's pretty much an illusion. They feel quite 'integral' to me but I've been using them for a good while so I'm used to where they sit.
You're right - Looks are higherRay Sachs
Aug 22, 2002 9:22 AM
Compared to Time or Speedplay, looks do put the sole of your foot higher. This doesn't bother me, but clearly does bother some folks. Can't quote you specific distances, but this is a fact of life with Looks.

I'll put in another plug for the 206 - I don't know how long the bearings will last, but they're light, relatively cheap, and don't squeak - I'd have been willing to spend some serious money to get rid of that squeak on the aluminum cleats.

-Ray
Campy for me nmPhatMatt
Aug 22, 2002 6:17 AM
times!rufus
Aug 22, 2002 6:17 AM
either the older equipe, or the new, lighter impact.
Just got the new Impacts...OffTheBack
Aug 22, 2002 7:50 AM
and while I've only ridden them a couple of times so far, I like them and think they meet all your criteria.

Large platform: check
Low platform height: check
Light: check
High quality bearing: check
No squeak: check.

What's left?
What are the cleats made of? -nmfiltersweep
Aug 22, 2002 8:59 AM
Look here..african
Aug 22, 2002 6:46 AM
I got these off e bay take a look at them. I have used some other look pedals for over 6 years, no probs and just got these ones for my new bike (pics coming soon) I loved the pedals right off the bat. Nice having the Jalabert sig ones too, bit of a talking topic in the parking lot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1853261696
speedplayswonderdog
Aug 22, 2002 7:08 AM

i've had my speedplay X/2's for 3 years. i ride alot and have never had problems. no squeaking (yes, Looks still do it). very comfortable and reliable pedal. i've never pulled out of them even in 35mph sprint finishes. get a pair, and you'll thank yourself.

Speedplay Zero series = garbage.alansutton
Aug 22, 2002 8:08 AM
If you opt for Speedplays, stay clear of the Zeros. I tried 2 different pairs and kept pulling out at the most random times. One pull-out caused me to crash and taco my front wheel. Stick with the x-series. I'm using X-2s now and love them.
Seedplay X1 or X2 (nm)Chen2
Aug 22, 2002 9:34 AM
re: Pedals: In search of the Holy Grail!mapei boy
Aug 22, 2002 10:11 AM
I like my Campy Choruses. I've never unintentionally wiggled out of them, something that used to drive me crazy with my Looks. They are light, though to be honest I can't really feel the difference when I ride. Bearings are wonderful. If you keep the cleat clean from grit, the pedal is squeak free. Clipping in and clipping out - supposedly the Campy's bete noir - is really no more difficult than with the Looks. You gotta break them in, though - by clipping in and out of them a good twenty times before you take your first ride. With my Carnac shoes, the Campy feels just as luxurious and wide as the Look does, underfoot. (I agree with you. This is an extremely important consideration.) Yes, the pedal that I click out of for stoplights is starting to look pretty scuffed, but my Looks always got scuffed up, too.