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Steel or Ti(13 posts)

Steel or Tiridefly
Aug 21, 2002 11:52 PM
for my future travel bike. Some of you may have read the previous thread about the S&S couplers. Well, I have decided to go for the travel bike instead of purchasing a bike in Italy, and I have it narrowed down to the Dean El Diente w/ the S&S or the new Tom Ritchey's proprietary coupling system bike called the Breakaway which is based on the steel Road Logic. The Dean will be about $1500 to $1700 for the frame and the Ritchey will be $1300. If it turns out to be only $200 more for the Ti frame, would you go for it over the steel?? What about if it is $400??? I am looking for a frame that will last a long time, is durable, and is butter smooth on the rough European roads. Steel is supposed to be the smoothest ride around, but is it that much smoother than a straight gauge Ti bike such as the El D??? Thanks again bubbas for all your inputs.
Campy or Shimano? blonde or brunette?cyclopathic
Aug 22, 2002 12:22 AM
it is a matter of personal preference. I have steel and Ti; steel rides smoother but I think it is the property of frame design, not material. On other hand Ti won't rust; not that I had any problem with steel.

BTW if you're looking for deal on Ti frame check TST Sandvick used to make frames for Dean, they probably still do. There's also a killer deal at Chuck's nice Kinesis frame but it won't work with S&S good luck
Aug 22, 2002 7:54 AM
Hey, you asked the question!
Brunette, of course. (nm)AaronL
Aug 22, 2002 8:04 AM ..Brunettes.. er ..Blondes...ridefly
Aug 22, 2002 1:17 PM
I love them both!!! Hey cyclo, what bike do you find yourself favoring??
re: Steel or Tizooog
Aug 22, 2002 1:24 AM
I love my Ti bike and the ride it gives. No longer have a steel bike but may so again one day.
re: Steel or Tipmf1
Aug 22, 2002 3:49 AM
I think titanium rides an awful lot like steel. It really depends on how the frame is designed. You can make a noodle or too killer stiff frame from either material. Many of the steel tube sets these days (e.g., 853) are almost as light as titanium. Ti doesn't have the low weight advantage it used to have.

When I travel, I take my ti bike. Why? Because I don't have to worry about getting the paint chipped -- there is none. Painted frames are prettier than raw ti, but nothing looks worse than a chipped up frame. That alone would be worth the $200 for me. Ti frames never rust and any scratches can be rubbed out with a buffing pad.
re: Steel or Titarwheel
Aug 22, 2002 3:57 AM
I am a big steel fan, but in a case like this I might opt for ti. A travel bike is much more likely to get the paint scratched or chipped, so an unpainted ti frame would make a lot of sense. Also, on a painted bike, the S&S couplings would stand out much more than on a ti frame. If the ti frame doesn't cost much more, I think I would go that route.
re: Steel or Tifiltersweep
Aug 22, 2002 4:18 AM
Why a coupler? Why not get a flight case?
you can usually fly it for free with a coupled bike (nm)ColnagoFE
Aug 22, 2002 5:58 AM
Within / to Europe I think you can usually fly it for freeStampertje
Aug 22, 2002 8:21 AM
Couplers or no couplers. Weight restrictions still apply, of course.
yeah i think international flights are exempt (nm)ColnagoFE
Aug 22, 2002 9:41 AM
I'd probably go TI for a travelling bikeColnagoFE
Aug 22, 2002 5:57 AM
It may be slightly more durable and you won't have to worry about paint scratches from rough handling. Either one would likely work though.