Aug 21, 2002 12:20 PM
|Has anyone tried the Tufo Tubular Clinchers. I just read about these recently. Seems like an interesting concept. I currently run Axial Pros and was wondering what the difference between the two is. I know that the tubular clinchers are slightly heavier. Is the weight a big factor or is it out weighed by other benefits?
|re: Tubular Clinchers||Akirasho|
Aug 21, 2002 12:34 PM
|... I've used 650C Tufo tubular clinchers for a bit... but I can't compare them directly to Axial Pros (partly because of the size and partly because of the wheelset). They do, however work as advertized when mounting them on a clincher rim (you still need to pre stretch them, and the bead hook on the Tufo is delicate so take care) and in many cases, can be inflated to near regular tubular pressures.
Their plus is a tubular ride characteristic on a clincher rim... along with almost the same ease as mounting regular clincher tires (no glueup).
Their minus is the same faced by anyone using tubulars with respect to certain types of flats whereby repairs can become a pain (indeed, the Tufo clincher is even harder to repair outright since it has a bead layer where the basetape would normally be...).
Also note, the Tufo stems use removable valve cores... so a sealant can be added to aide in preventing flats.
Remain In Light.
|Interesting (but failed) concept||Kerry|
Aug 21, 2002 4:38 PM
|These tires have been around for a long time and never caught on. It's actually a mystery why Tufo keeps making them, since every rider report or magazine review on them is negative, with an occasional "OK, yeah, well, but . . ." thrown in. It's like the old GM turbocharged engines - all the power of a 4 cylinder, with the gas mileage of a V8. Heavier tire (loses advantage of tubular) that's not as durable or reliable as a clincher.|
Aug 21, 2002 6:54 PM
|I'm currently riding a set||Walter|
Aug 21, 2002 5:03 PM
|They're in place of Michelin Axials (not Axial Pro though).
Tried them out of curiosity as I got a pair on eBay for $35 or 40 which is about what a single costs.
Good and bad and I'm not sure one outweighs the other IMO. Mine are the 300tpi model and seem pretty puncture resistant. They take ridiculously high pressure (175psi) but since they're tubeless you can underinflate w/o fear of snakebites. I'm heavy enough to where I can ride high psi, my pump maxes out at about 160, and still feel a smooth ride. They ride well IMO and if you work your pump out will roll well enough to offset the weight penalty, again IMO.
OTOH they're a plain bitch to mount and that's being charitable. I pre-stretched and worked them over the rim according to directions and still had to lever them on, with a wood dowel. It's not a matter of being weak or poor technique but that rubber bead that allows them to go on a clincher rim just doesn't stretch much. Potential puncture problems are listed above. If the sealant doesn't work I don't viw these as repairable.
To sum it up I'm reasonably happy for the price I paid but don't know if I would be if I'd paid MSRP.
Aug 21, 2002 5:06 PM