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Let's be real honest here, continued(23 posts)

Let's be real honest here, continuedelviento
Aug 21, 2002 8:17 AM
"Aero carbon wheels, carbon and Ti this and that, specialized bikes, skinsuits, aero helmets -- where does the madness end? I'd take a moderately priced straight forward bike and plenty of time to train over all the fancy stuff any day. Anyone with me?"

I am probably one of those guys you refer to. I understand the C-40 poser bashing sentiments. But one thing I can tell you right now:

Most likely, I spend a greater percentage of my spare time riding my bike, and spend a smaller percentage of my income on bikes than you do.

Now who is a poser?
huh?ColnagoFE
Aug 21, 2002 8:24 AM
why not have both? i mean if you don't have to mortgage the house to do it, why not have all the toys to play with? then again you are correct that having a functional bike and time to ride it is more important than collecting high priced doodads.
I'll be honest here....eschelon
Aug 21, 2002 8:30 AM
An analogy that I can come up with is this...why are so many men so infatuated with the hot looking chic? You know, the tight round ass, big boobs, long flowing hair, good skin, intelligent yet freaky in bed? I mean, when you are doing the deed, and you close your eyes...it feels all the same even if you are doing a fat chic...so long as you don't go reaching for her but or hips because the Michelin fat would cause a de-erection...for me at least...but essentially the fornication would be same in sensation as doing a fat chic. So why bother with so much upkeep and maintenance of a pretty princess? It's about our intrinsic need to be around and own something of value and beauty. In the end, I end up having a better time...both with the princess and the obscenely expensive bike.
Get real.amflyer
Aug 21, 2002 8:55 AM
That's it...I don't like you.

Now you have to live with that for the rest of your life.

Ta,

Steve
Oh no!...what will I do??? Please like me! Please! nmeschelon
Aug 21, 2002 8:57 AM
I like the analogy, allow me to ramble....Ahimsa
Aug 21, 2002 9:02 AM
I suppose I compromise. I dig bikes (and women) that are tough and resilient at slight expense to "princess" beauty. In fact, they have a beauty all their own.

I suppose that I have had an eye for both models and carbon fibre, but that stuff is fluffy and just ain't worth it at days end. True beauty comes from being unique and well suited to the task at hand.

My women never "needed" me. They could take care of themselves. I believe that if my bikes could propel themselves, I'd awaken to an empty garage.

A good bike makes you work to be a better rider. A good woman makes you want to be a better man.

Ya can't just buy it.

A. (Boring big breasted bottle blond bimbos are a dime a dozen.......as are carbon frames. All you need is the money.)
You hit the nail on the head!!!!! That's what I was sayin...eschelon
Aug 21, 2002 9:06 AM
Some people are too damn narrow-minded to see and understand what I was trying to illustrate. You ma man are an artist/poet who can see the true meaning of things without getting all bug-eyed seeing a nude painting.

Bravo!
This is assuming....PseuZQ
Aug 21, 2002 9:36 AM
You've actually been with a woman.
what a ridiculous analogybcm119
Aug 21, 2002 9:49 AM
If you close your eyes, you can still tell the difference between an expensive bike and an old clunker. We have expensive bikes because they make riding more enjoyable. The reason for so much upkeep and maintenance is to keep the nice bike working like new.

Whatever point you were trying to illustrate might be more easily conveyed without using stories about "doing a fat chic".
not to mentionDougSloan
Aug 21, 2002 10:03 AM
People have personalities, and there are thousands of reasons to be or not be with a person, other than appearance or weight. Bikes have no personalities. They are toys, tools, or at least just things.

The analogy is not only inartful, but a bit crass, too.

Doug
bikes have no personalities? even your c-40? (nm)ColnagoFE
Aug 21, 2002 11:54 AM
HA HA HA HA HA! Your answer focusedscottfree
Aug 21, 2002 10:07 AM
on the BIKE!!!!! HA HA HA! "Of COURSE we can tell the difference between bikes!" The implication being that of course it's true we couldn't tell the difference between women!

WHat a sad lot we roadies are ...
I thought that was pretty interesting too. (nm)Alex-in-Evanston
Aug 21, 2002 11:19 AM
Biking is not my whole life, just a huge part of it.onespeed
Aug 21, 2002 8:39 AM
I like to travel and do lots of other things as well.

So if I can combine my other pursuits with cycling I am going to need more money to do it. So I work hard at what I do and make decent money to buy the things that make my pursuits more enjoyable. My bikes reflect this.

I did a ride in Europe this past summer that would have been out of the question had I not had a decent job. The hard work in the office paid off. Riding a nice bike the whole time made it perfect.
Honestly ... you must be over-worked & under-paid (nm)pmf1
Aug 21, 2002 9:14 AM
OK, I volunteer to be a poser. Now tell us something new [nm]tz
Aug 21, 2002 9:29 AM
So, maybe I'm a poserbrider
Aug 21, 2002 10:37 AM
CIP -- when I raced, I pretty much went all-out on equipment. My ride is a custom titanium TiCycles Softride, Ultegra with the SRP bolt kit, Brew brakes (and Specialized TriSpokes when I'm TTing or doing a tri). So now that I'm not racing, do I need to give up that ride to NOT be a poser. Basically racing was my life outside of my day job, so was that justified? How about now? I still wear my team jerseys. Does that make me a poser?

I say, ride what you want, how you want. Attitude is what matters most.
You guys sound like a bunch of hens cackeling.Spoke Wrench
Aug 21, 2002 11:11 AM
It sounds to me like you're not satisfied just to feel like you're OK yourself. You guys sound like you have to take the next step and think that anyone who thinks differently from you must be not OK. That's one step too many, guys.
re: Let's be real honest here, continuedRich_Racer
Aug 21, 2002 11:37 AM
i "Most likely, I spend a greater percentage of my spare time riding my bike, and spend a smaller percentage of my income on bikes than you do"

Well, I spend about 20 hours a week riding and my bike cost me 200 dollars 10 years ago. Even on my miserly wage that's a pretty low percentage.

Rich.

p.s. I want to be a poser and will be spending a large amount of money on a bike very soon!
It's much like owning a Corvette. Ego.Quack
Aug 21, 2002 11:59 AM
It constantly feeds your ego due to others lusting after your ride. But there will always be that kid in the ratted-out Honda Civic that kicks your ass all over the road and will therefore consider you a poser because he's faster and can't afford the same luxuries. If the bike you buy makes you ride more and hopefully faster, why do you care?? Ego.

On a side note, ego is also what drives people to unnecessarily insert the type of bike they ride into their RBR posts.

Enjoy the C40!
Corvette Differencemikebikr
Aug 21, 2002 12:13 PM
You can buy a substantially faster car via the motor. Can't buy a faster motor for a bike...it's got to be earned.
that was my initial point nmDougSloan
Aug 21, 2002 12:37 PM
So you can only buy a corvette if you drive fast?SimonRex
Aug 21, 2002 2:00 PM
that seems to be the point you are making. News Flash. Unless you get paid to race/ride a bike you are technically a poser (regardless of the type of bike). In fact, the more you train and/or race without getting paid the more of a poser you are. Sort of like "softball guy".