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cross bike or road bike.... help(13 posts)

cross bike or road bike.... helplookin for help
Aug 19, 2002 10:18 AM
brand new here... I have been riding mountain bikes for awhile but find myself more and more out on the road (on my mountain bike.) that is getting old.

I am looking to get a road bike but I am getting kind of caught up in these cross bikes and their versatility. we have alot of gravelly back roads in SE Ohio that this might work well on. The only thing I know for sure is I am wanting steel, and trying to stay under$1500 but I doubt that is going to happen.

any thoughts on 1. cross bike or road bike
2. what should I be looking for in either.

any help would hopefully unscramble my head. We don't have alot of options for dealers in the area. Only one decent Bike shop around that I deal with much, so getting to see alot of bikes in person is not an option.
re: cross bike or road bike.... helpliebejungen
Aug 19, 2002 10:29 AM
I was in the same postion that you are not to long ago. I couldn't decide between a hybrid and a roadie. I wanted a roady, but the roads where i live are not great, and i didn't want to shell out so much for a road bike, even thougth that is mostly what i wanted.

How did I solve it? I found only one bike that met my needs... The TREK 7500 FX. It is labeled a fitness bike, but basically is a hybrid bike with more road bike componetry. Got it for $619 on year end clearance. Normally is $675 depending on where you live.

I absolutely love my bike, and have had no problems. I ride it constantly and never want to get off.

Check it out at http://www.trekbikes.com

It is under the City and Bike Path catagory of Bikes.

Was the only one for me (And I looked at everything imaginable), may be right for you. Check it out.

Jon
think "versitile"Steve_0
Aug 19, 2002 10:50 AM
something to consider while you're shopping, a cyclocross bike will be no less comfortable than a roadbike on the road (COULD even be moreso).

Most roadbikes, however, cant really be ridden comfortably, if at all, off-road.

Unless youre planning on pacelining, I'd go for a cross-type bike which can suit many needs.
If you are keeping your mtb . . .Look381i
Aug 19, 2002 11:24 AM
then I would recommend going full on for a road bike. Ride your mtb off road.

if you decide on a road bike approach and like steel (or alu for that matter), you should definitely consult Gary Hobbs at GVHBikes.com. He has thousands of satisfied customers, including me and several of my friends.
Check out both his regular inventory and his specials. He'll build up the bike just as you want it.

Good luck.
re: cross bike or road bike.... helpaliensporebomb
Aug 19, 2002 12:00 PM
I'm thinking that possibly something like a LeMond Wayzata might fit the bill. Take a look and check it out. The components aren't the top end of the heap but it looks like it might be what you're looking for - somewhere between a pure roadie and a cross bike.
The Wayzata is the same as the Poprad...Ray Sachs
Aug 20, 2002 4:11 AM
...but with flat bars rather than drop bars and different gearing. Exact same frame, though - a cross frame. That said, the Poprad is one of the more roadie oriented cross geometries out there. Very similar to the great sport touring bikes of yore. Not a bad choice for a good road bike that can also handle off-road sections. I have a bunch of bikes and the Poprad isn't my favorite, but if I had to pick just one to keep, it might well be that one with an extra set of wheels.

-Ray
seen that neck of the woods...lonefrontranger
Aug 19, 2002 12:37 PM
You live anywhere near Jackson or Wilkesville?

Get a 'cross bike. I've ridden those roads you're talking about, and raced quite a few of them at the mercy of the local road race promoter who goes out of his way to find the most damaged, rustic "classic" type courses possible. My most vivid memory of SE Ohio is being hopelessly off the back of a race, half-bonked and talking to Jesus - right about then the biggest freaking pitbull I ever saw came barrelling out of nowhere and chased me a LONG way uphill; this was in the way, way out yonder of Pike Co (Tar Holler?). Best anti-bonk remedy I ever found.

My .02: you'll be way more comfortable on something with a little plusher geometry and tires, but for someone who's looking at getting a decent bike that's fun and fast to ride, I doubt you'll be satisfied with the hybrid option.

If you decide you need to go out and hammer with the local roadie club, get a spare set of wheels and stick roadie slicks on 'em for that. I raced an old tank of a 'cross bike in crits and road races for a couple seasons when I was between road bikes, and didn't miss out on anything. IMO you'll be happiest with the 'cross bike and it will be more versatile for what you want to do.

Check out the Cyclocross forum for ideas on setup, etc...
Take a look at the Surly CrosscheckGregory Taylor
Aug 19, 2002 1:07 PM
http://www.1x1speed.com

It's a very nice, very versatile, modestly priced 'cross bike. They sell a built-up bike for about $900 - the components are low end (Tiagra, etc.) but actually make sense on a bike designed to get dirty. Your bike shop should be able to order it as Surlys are distributed by Quality Bikes.
Take a look at the Surly Crosscheckpeter in NVA
Aug 19, 2002 5:26 PM
For myself, there's always a compromise unless I someday go custom. My cross bike has a longer wheelbase, slacker head angle and higher bottom bracket than my road bike. Its quite stable and fun on gravel, but resists quick turning on slicks, so on the road I prefer my road bike.
If I went custom I'd get a road bike with clearances and disc brakes (my canti's just don't have the nice modulation of road brakes even though they are more powerful).
custom steel frame (and components) for about $1500MJ
Aug 20, 2002 12:36 AM
hybrids are good general bikes - they meet most recreational needs - if you are more serious I'd be surprised if you'd be happy with a hybrid

a cross bike does everything - it is versatile by definition - you can tear up everything from fast group road rides to technical singeltrack - a different wheelset helps

one thing not mentioned so far by other posters is the touring option - alot of cross frames come with braze ons for racks and guards/fenders

in the past three months I've been on a four day tour, commute on/off road daily, put in some offroad miles which leaves the bike filthy for rides with a road group

last year I purchased a custom steel cross frame with Campy Daytona 10 speed, Selle Italia Trans Am saddle and Mavic Open Pros, Michelein Sprint tyres, Uno Stem, Stronglight headset for £975 from Donohue http://www.donohuecycles.co.uk/ in Bishop Auckland, County Durham, England - you can do the math for the current exchange rate - but I'd be surprised if anybody comes close to that = it is a bargain and it's a sweet bike

also - as you're resident in the US you don't have to pay VAT (17.5% of that price) so deduct VAT, add shipping costs and US duty and it's cheaper than the £975

road bikes are great - but in many ways they're a one trick pony - mtb's are great but riding the road, even with a road casette on the rear is boring - they're meant to be offroad - a cross bike does everything
The steel company I'm always carrying on about is Gunnar.Leisure
Aug 20, 2002 12:49 AM
They make the Crosshairs and the Roadie. They are welded by Waterford in 853 steel with Ox Platinum for some of the stays. The frames by themselves are $600 and a complete bike with 105 or Veloce can be had for around $1500. I happen to like the Gunnars over the Lemonds; I feel they're aligned just a bit straighter. The Lemonds certainly aren't bad though, and in the lower price ranges the Lemond bikes come in a bit cheaper for the same parts spec.
re: cross bike or road bike.... helpxxl
Aug 20, 2002 3:53 AM
I remember well the riding around SE Ohio; lived there for a time. The roads go through some pretty country, and the prettiest country is found on the crappiest roads. I had a road bike down there, and there were just too many times I'd end up down a road I couldn't ride, having to turn around. I put slicks on my mountain bike, and that was o.k., as long as I wasn't going to be out more than a few hours. But, if I were down there again, I'd want the cross bike. You should be able to score a nice one over in Columbus, as there are some decent shops there. And if you can handle single-speeding over the terrain, you're a better rider than me; I'd need gears.
Thaks alot you guys have been a great helplookin for help
Aug 20, 2002 4:34 AM
This has helped and Yeah I am not far from Wilkesville and JAckson as one of you asked.

I am definitely going to go for the cyclocross bike vs the hybrid. I thought that is what I was looking for and pretty much sounds that way. It was very helpful that some of you knew the terrain. I have actually been looking at the lemond poprad but the others were good suggestions to check out.

Now I am getting all excited.

Chip