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Hypocrite? I cycle, exercise, etc.. but I smoke & drink also(17 posts)
|Hypocrite? I cycle, exercise, etc.. but I smoke & drink also||0_Kewl|
Aug 18, 2002 3:17 PM
|I eat healthy, cycle, lift weights, exercise etc.., but I have some vices that I still do now and then. I'm not a heavy smoker or drinker, but I do have the occasional beer or alcohol. I smoke some also. Does this make me a hypocrite? Who else here cycles, eats good, lift weights, exercise etc.., but still has some bad vices such as drinking and smoking?|
|I like to think of myself as a drinker. . .||js5280|
Aug 18, 2002 4:12 PM
|with a cycling problem :-) Alcohol is my drug of choice (as I sip a Semillon/Chard) but within moderation (well at least most of the time). I do find though that as my cycling picks up, I tend to drink less, eat healthy, etc. For example, you're probably not going to party it up a few nights before a century. Of course, I haven't done RAGBRAI so maybe that's not an absolute ;-)
Hell, a large part of cycling for me is so I can partake in the things I love, like food, wine, and spirits, and still look and be healthy. Probably the worse thing you can do is reduce or eliminate cycling because of some people's uptight views of the subject. I'd try to increase your healthy activities and see it drives your desire for these other vices down. I'm continually amazed at the ease of healthy lifestyle changes I've made as exercise and health have become more important in my life.
As for the smoking, I can say as a cancer survivor I don't want my last days of my life spent doing chemotherapy, I've been there and it SUCKS. It doesn't take much tobacco smoking to dramatically increase your odds of getting lung cancer which is killer cancer. The 5 year survival rate for lung cancer is only 14%. Most other cancers you're talking about 75-80% survival rate. It sounds like nicotine doesn't have you fully in its grip, your smoking habit is more social habit than addiction. I'd definitely try to kick this particular habit because it a particularly dangerous and a horrible way to leave this earth.
Great topic by the way, I think you'll find a large majority of people do have their vices, but most vices in moderation, are what makes life enjoyable. Cheers!
|I like to think of myself as a drinker. . .||0_Kewl|
Aug 18, 2002 5:07 PM
|Hmm I think you hit the nail. I think I would fit in the class of social smoker/drinker. I really don't smoke when I'm alone, but when I go out or on break at work I bust out my camels and puff away. I drink in moderation, I'll drink when I'm out with friends, at parties etc, but I will also drink when I'm home alone watching NFL/college football on tv. Just as in driving a car and riding your bike. Don't drink and drive.
So I guess; I'm not hypocritical, now that I think about it, my friends who are also pretty good atheletes, in good shape and stuff, still drink on occasion. So I guess I can cycle and still drink moderately.
|2 drinks a day is good for you!||js5280|
Aug 18, 2002 6:36 PM
|First, it was wine, now they say the same thing about beer :-) I don't think you'll find more than a handful of people here that abstain totally from alcohol except for those who are pre-dispositioned to alcoholism or are alcoholics.
Even the Greeks knew thousands of years ago that moderation is the key. There are a few things though (e.g. herion, crack cocaine) that moderation is either not possible, extremely unlikely, or is so damaging that they shouldn't be used. Cigarettes are one of those thing that are very damaging and can be very addicting (some even say more than herion) so if you can avoid it, well why not? Being an athlete and having vices is not mutually exclusive. Even Lance loves his Shiner Bock and mexican food (mmmmmm. . .Chuy's) and he seems to be doing okay last time I heard.
|I'd agree though that you should kick the smoking habit now||ColnagoFE|
Aug 19, 2002 6:16 AM
|I was a social smoker for years and got hooked when I was in college. Nicotine is one evil thing to get out of your system once you are hooked and it sneaks up on you. Today I can have a cig once in a blue moon (usually after having way too much alcohol) and not pick up the habit, but it wasn't always that way. Often a slip up would send me to the store to buy another pack. Lou Reed of Velvet Underground fame (who still smokes) says that cigs are harder to kick than heroin.|
|I gave up smoking about 5 years ago....,||STEELYeyed|
Aug 18, 2002 4:57 PM
|I tried to combine smoking,drinking and cycling and I did for a while,but gradually got off the tobacco and alcohol by hanging with racer types that won't go near the stuff.
Cycling can get pretty expensive,but there is a huge return that you don't get by abusing substances-health. I look and feel 10 times better that I did 5 years ago,the first thing people say when I tell them my age is "God!you look good for 40!. BTW one of the guys that I used to work with that smoked for 30 years just went on oxygen after being diagnosed with severe emphasima in his early 50's. Just my opinion,but it's your choice.
|I gave up smoking about 5 years ago....,||firstrax|
Aug 18, 2002 5:10 PM
|I also quit 5 years ago. Its the single smartest thing I have ever done. The most immediate benefit I noticed was that colds were far less frequent and the systems less severe.|
|You may be a beer drinker with a cycling habit. nm||Juanmoretime|
Aug 19, 2002 1:05 AM
|drinking, OK ... smoking, NO||tarwheel|
Aug 19, 2002 4:18 AM
|Smoking doesn't make you a hypocrite, it's just not a very smart thing to do to your body. I was a casual smoker like you in high school and college. When I finally quit, I was amazed at how hard it was to do -- even though I smoked at most 1/2 pack a day and somedays not at all. Do yourself a favor and quit while you are still a light smoker. One of the problems with smoking is it is psychologically as well as physically addictive. You start to crave smoking as something to do during breaks, after meals, when drinking -- thinking you're not really hooked. And then before you know it, you're a pack a day smoker. Then it is extremely hard to quit. |
I still drink (beer mostly) and eat too much, but I have never regretted quitting smoking about 28 years ago. It takes about 5 years to fully rid yourself of any cravings (at least it did for me). My younger brother (by 3 years) still smokes casually, and he is also an avid cyclist. Even though I just started riding again 2 years ago (after stopping for about 10 years) and he has been riding over 5000 miles a year for the past 10 years, I can easily outclimb my brother on hills -- which I attribute to his smoking (OK ... and a few extra pounds as well).
|guilty as charged||ColnagoFE|
Aug 19, 2002 6:03 AM
|I like a cold beer. I quit smoking 10 years ago--largely because of cycling--though on rare occasions I'll light one up. Better to cycle and do this stuff than sit on the couch. Most people I know in the "health" professions have quite a few vices. Some competitive cyclists do as well though it's probably more common among mountain bikers than roadies. And not too common among triathletes I know. They are like monks when it comes to food/drink/exercise. A bit too extreme for me.|
|re: Hypocrite? I cycle, exercise, etc.. but I smoke & drink also||scruffyduncan|
Aug 19, 2002 7:57 AM
|I did 120 miles one Sunday with a massive hangover, boy did those last 20 miles drag!. I drank loads of water, but was a weak man all day.|
|Similar story but during a race||ColnagoFE|
Aug 19, 2002 8:17 AM
|I raced Mt. Evans hillclimb with a massive hangover and 3 hours sleep. The first 10 miles were hell and then it actually got a bit better as the race went on. I was at a B-52s concert the nite before and had already agreed to drive up with this guy previously so I couldn't back out. Not recommended.|
|Did you Love Yak? ;-) (nm)||js5280|
Aug 19, 2002 9:11 AM
Aug 19, 2002 11:07 AM
Aug 19, 2002 8:58 AM
|I wonder if drinking Guiness would qualify as carbo-loading?|
|beer is fine||bcm119|
Aug 19, 2002 11:29 AM
|I am a full blown beer snob in the eyes of most, although I rarely push my views on others. But I do enjoy one beer a day, sometimes 2. Its actually very good for your circulatory system, as it thins the blood and flushes toxins. You just have to drink an equal amount of water. Some of my co-workers think I having a drinking problem because I know so much about beer, but actually I drink less than most people. I love really good beer and often structure vacations around visiting breweries, as well as cycling. Beer can be a healthy and rewarding hobby- it doesn't have to be associated with binge drinking. Cigarettes are just plain stupid though- a health risk in any amount.|
|kicked a two pack a day habit in march...||aet|
Aug 20, 2002 5:22 AM
|and i exercised plenty. when i was younger in the army i could run 7 minute miles with that habit.(i know that isn't super fast) then i got older and got a bike and had to drop the cigs. just so ic ould keep improving. keep riding and that may motivate you to get rid of the smokes. as for the alcohol. nothing wrong with a few drinks.|| |