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Sidi - piece o' crap buckles?(19 posts)

Sidi - piece o' crap buckles?dave woof
Aug 16, 2002 3:29 PM
I've had a pair of Sidi Shadows for about a year - I love the shoes - but so far I've went through three or four of the buckles - these are the ones with the black plastic body, the two red release tabs, and the silver aluminum tightener doohicky. I'm easy on the shoes too.

Are these just crap? The springs break or the plastic body breaks where the top pivot pin goes through.

I was wondering if there's another Sidi buckle that I can replace these with - are the ones off the Genius shoes any betteR?

thanks

Dave Woof
re: Sidi - piece o' crap buckles?pedalman
Aug 16, 2002 4:18 PM
i have a pair of g3 megas with ultramicrolock sl buckles.Ive broken three in the past year (4k miles).Two at the spindle rings of the ratchet release and one at the attachment screw at the shoe.At 20$ a replacement pair there has to be a better way.I agree with the quality of the shoe.
re: Sidi - piece o' crap buckles?seyboro
Aug 16, 2002 5:49 PM
I have broken one buckle on my Energys in two years and I think it was my own fault, as I pulled the tightening lever up too far. Try going with very small movements, maybe two or three little rachets. Worked well for me.
starting to believe so..Jekyll
Aug 16, 2002 6:10 PM
I've broken 2 "micro-locks" or whatever they are calling the main buckle on my Energys in 1,500 miles - kind of unacceptable for $200+ shoes. Both broke at the attachment point to the shoe - right at the screw hole. Sidi sent me a set after I broke the first one, the second one broke right after the first leg on an MS ride - ended up buying a pair of shoes (which are now for sale in the classifieds here - if anyone is interested) to complete the ride as no local dealer stocked Sidi, duct tape for 75 miles did not sound any more attractive than a SAG ride...
Comfortable, well ventilated, stiff, attractive shoe - the buckles do need some work.
re: ...wow...Akirasho
Aug 16, 2002 6:38 PM
... a few years ago, I purchased replacement buckles for my D2s in anticipation of a failure sometime in the future... I've never used 'em.

Now, I've got, in addition to the original D2s, an additional pair of D2s, a pair of G3s and a pair of G4s. The buckle has evolved a bit... and the latch retaining pin on the D2s can be fussy, I've never experienced any real failures.

Is it possible (as has been mentioned in a couple other posts) that your buckles could have been inadvertently exposed to an element (either chemical (lube) or perhaps the heat of the noonday sun in the back of a car) that quickened their demise?

Maybe I just don't snug mine down as much as others... but that's always been one of the main selling features for me... "micro" adjustable.

http://www.sidiusa.com/parts-access/index.html


type found on my D2s


type found on my G3 and G4

We abide.

Remain In Light.
re: ...wow...clintb
Aug 18, 2002 7:00 AM
Akirasho,

What the heck model Sidi is that you've posted? The front two straps sure look different. Not velcro like normal and not the twister things on Energy's.
re: ...wow...dave woof
Aug 18, 2002 8:38 AM
That's the model I have - the Sidi Shadow. I bought mine mail order from the UK, I haven't seen them in US stores. Not many people have them.

The two plastic straps have notches in them and they lock under the plastic tabs sticking out. It's really simple, works very well for me. I'm not a big velcro fan. Seems to wear out and comes loose when climbing or pulling up hard. Never tried the shoes with the twist lock tabs though.
SIDI screws looseMr Good
Aug 16, 2002 9:14 PM
Every pair of sidis I've ever bought over the years had a loose screw holding in the microlock buckle. I've learned to tighten the screw down (it's under the ratchet mechanism) before my first ride. No other problem from sidis---I like 'em!
Do NOT use Loctite on 2002coonass
Aug 17, 2002 4:01 AM
shoes...the plastic will definitely disintegrate. (it took 2 sets of buckles before my conversation w/Sidi's Cust. Service mentioned this) Other than that, I don't have any complaints...best fitting shoe (for me) ever.
Do NOT use Loctite on 2002divve
Aug 17, 2002 4:06 AM
You can use Loctite 425. It's specifically formulated for plastic fasteners (cyanoacrylate based instead of an anaerobic compound).
What would happen if.....Lone Gunman
Aug 17, 2002 4:20 AM
You put the loctite on the screw, let it dry for say a day, and then screwed the buckle in place? Still same result?
What would happen if.....divve
Aug 17, 2002 4:36 AM
Regular blue Loctite #242 or 243 isn't suitable for that application method. It's meant to be cured in absence of oxygen. If you just let it dry on the thread I think it will loose most of its intended functionality. The pre-applied stuff that you see on some screws is of a different compound.

I just checked the threads in my shoes and they appear to be brass. You can safely use blue Loctite on those provided you don't contaminate the plastic parts. The stuff is known to cause cracking in thermoplastics. What you can do is put a little drop on a toothpick. Then, apply a very small amount on the receiving threads so it doesn't flush out when you tighten the screw. Alternatively, you could also use some nail polish from your wife or girlfriend, or you own if you use it :), that should keep the screw in as well. I don't think it's all that critical. I haven't experienced any loose screws in a year without applying anything.
another techniquesupercorsa
Aug 17, 2002 8:11 PM
i've never had buckles on any if my sidi's come loose, but my fiancee's were loosening quite frequently. that's when i made the loctite 242 = shattered buckles discovery. once i got new buckles i solved the loosening problem with teflon joint tape on the screw threads. been a month + with no issues, so far so good.
yes good ideadivve
Aug 17, 2002 10:29 PM
The functionality is quite similar to a compound called Vibra-Tite. You pre-apply it to threads with a brush and it dries into a soft plastic type of material after a few minutes. It doesn't actually lock the screw in place, but creates just enough drag so it won't loosen due to vibration.
I'm pretty sure this is what caused my problems (nm)Jekyll
Aug 17, 2002 6:39 AM
re: Sidi - piece o' crap buckles?gtx
Aug 17, 2002 11:43 AM
something I've seen several times: people at mtb races looking around in the dirt looking for shoe parts. Part of the reason I ride Carnacs.
Well, aren't we special....nm :-()Lone Gunman
Aug 17, 2002 4:19 PM
need the black on blackLuis
Aug 17, 2002 10:40 PM
The quite responsive guys at Veltec Sports have alluded to the fact that the prior runs of Sidi buckles have had problems. They just sent me a pair of the most recent versions, which have black release tabs and a black body and are supposed to be better.

Maybe it's just me, but these newest buckles seem to have a reduced bend on the metal lever, making the buckles slightly harder to get at when riding.

Sidi's fit me, and I've gotten good wear from my prior ones. It's just annoying that at this price they can't get the details right. High marks to their US distributor for quickly sending out parts, though.
Sidi Buckles are Expensive Junk !Maartin
Aug 28, 2002 11:23 AM
You are right that Veltec is Supportive. The shoes fit well but this buckle issue is an obvious product defect. I have gone through 3 sets of buckles, two heel plates from them falling off and I am pissed it cost so much to fix.