|Encounter with the coyote||PEDDLEFOOT|
Aug 14, 2002 6:56 AM
|I was riding on a local trail this morning through some forest preserve area when I encountered what I can only describe as a coyote.It definitely was not a domectic dog.I've seen them once or twice before on this trail but never quite this close.
I was riding along when it came out of some tall grass and started to run along side of me about 10 ft. to the side keeping pace all the way.I thought of speeding up but wasn't sure how it would react.There was no way I was going to stop so I just kept riding.After a few minutes it took off into the woods.
My question is has anybody else encountered a wild dog like this and what did you do?Was it just playing with me or was there a chance it might attack?
|re: Encounter with the coyote||Steve_0|
Aug 14, 2002 6:58 AM
|generally, i dont think coyotes attack; he was probably playing with you.
If it were a wild dog on the other hand.....
|Did he have Acme rocket-powered roller skates?||OffTheBack|
Aug 14, 2002 7:04 AM
|Then he was looking for the road runner.
Seriously, I used to live in semi-rural southern CA where there were lots of coyotes, and they were pretty timid around humans. I've never heard of anyone being attacked by one. However they were a good reason to keep our cat inside at night.
|other animal dangers||rob45|
Aug 14, 2002 7:25 AM
|in so cal, there are coyotes everywhere--never had a problem. On early morning rides, I do keep half an eye out for mountain lions, which roam these parts (one crossed my path halfway up Palomar Mt once). An employee of the jet propulsion Laboratory near Pasadena was recently killed after he hit a deer on a descent, so I watch out a bit more for deer now too. Dogs are still my worst problem--I'm "teaching" the local dogs through a few harsh lessons that cyclists aren't playthings, but am always shocked at how uncaring owners seem to be that their dogs can pose this threat and expose them to busy roads.|
|coyotes are no danger||mr_spin|
Aug 14, 2002 7:08 AM
|Coyotes are related to dogs, I think. They are thinner, taller than your average dog, and have distinctive "sharp" looking features. You'll know one when you see it. I'll bet you encountered a real dog if it ran alongside you.
Coyotes are usually very shy and come out only at night. I've seen plenty in the daytime, though. I almost T-boned one at 40 mph on my road bike one time, when it darted across the road.
Unless they are rabid, you don't need to be scared unless you are a cat or other small animal (I presume you aren't). They are not typically interested in humans, but I wouldn't leave a baby unattended. For the most part, treat them as a dog.
I came upon a coyote on my mountain bike one day. It was sitting in the middle of the trail, which made me think it was a dog. I kept coming at it, and it didn't move. Finally, it stood up and I could see it was a coyote. I kept coming, and it started backtracking. Eventually it turned and ran away. I never even slowed down. Nothing to fear.
|coyotes are "almost" no danger||bigdave|
Aug 14, 2002 7:25 AM
|The rabid part you suggested is the wild card. You'll never know a rabid dog (or coyote) from a bike until it's too late.
You don't have to be fearful, but be cautious and prepared to evade/squirt/whatever.
The coyote that ran next to you, was probably just being "dog" like... they like to chase things and check them out.
I've seen them before, too. Like foxes and other wild animals, they generally want no part of humans.
There are some not far from my parents house, so they don't leave their Bichon Frise out too long... he's virtually blind and would be an easy target for a coyote.
I'm not worried about my dogs however... 2 Giant Schnauzers that go about 80 lbs each, or more than double the weight of a typical coyote. Not many coyotes are going to want a piece of them. :-)
|the dingo ate my baby! (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Aug 14, 2002 7:26 AM
|Big Foot stole my wife. (nm)||husker|
Aug 14, 2002 7:32 AM
|You know what they say about guys with big feet?||mr_spin|
Aug 14, 2002 8:14 AM
|Hey, he's got big feet.|
|Big feet = big ego? (nm)||Crankist|
Aug 14, 2002 8:28 AM
|You know what they say about guys with big feet?||rbb|
Aug 14, 2002 8:32 AM
|So by calling sasquatch "big foot" people are sort of calling him "big #*&!"??
Hmph, never thought of it that way! You??
|You know what they say about guys with big feet?||klay|
Aug 14, 2002 9:31 AM
|Don't be so quick||UncleMoe|
Aug 14, 2002 8:31 AM
|Depends on where you are. While the chances are slim and I wouldn't give it too much thought, recently in San Diego a woman was attacked at night around the La Costa resort and Spa area - mainly populated, but there are some open space areas there (actually have decent mountain bike trails, but the land owner is getting sued by the family of some kid that got killed, so now they patrol and arrest for violations - but back to our story).
This was maybe a month ago, a woman was walking her dog at night and she was attacked by, she said, 10 coyotes. One bit her on the leg and another knocked her over. Her dog was rather large so it didn't seem like the coyotes were after it - but her dog fought them off and some residents heard her screaming for help and chased the coyotes away.
Fish and game came out and tracked a pack of 4 coyotes that showed zero fear of humans and destroyed them. So who knows it their really were 10.
So I wouldn't worry about it, but if it is tracking you it is probably considering you as potential prey. They come into our neighborhood at night and I have had one about 5 feet from me showing no fear.
I understand part of their hunting method is for one ot go off alone and "entice" other animals into chasing it or following it out of curiousity, while the pack lies in wait for an attack.
|keyword = night||mr_spin|
Aug 14, 2002 8:45 AM
|Most of us aren't riding in coyote country at night, so the chance of running into a coyote pack is beyond extremely rare. I grew up around coyotes and never heard of them attacking humans.
I'm amazed that a woman was attacked by 10 coyotes and only one managed to get in a bite! Either she's exaggerating (probably), or we don't have that much to fear from coyotes.
|I totally agree...||UncleMoe|
Aug 14, 2002 8:55 AM
|But if has teeth and travels in packs, I wouldn't say "no danger". Odds are incredibly remote, not even worth giving a thought too, unless you have one following you down the road. It certainly doesn't hurt to at least be aware of the potoential.
I was a little surprised by the story myself and think 10 was probably an exageration. But with all the locals that let there cats out at night and wonder why the disappear (a new lost cat poster everyday in our neighborhood), or leave cat/dog food out on the porches and patios...well pretty much coyotes are less afraid of humans and view houses and residential areas as a food source.
|Thats why I bring my Glock .40 on rides.........kidding!||fz4vgq|
Aug 14, 2002 9:45 AM
|might not be a bad idea though, with the Harley/cyclist encounters being talked about today.........again, kidding:)|
|They're venturing into urban areas in MA||kenyee|
Aug 14, 2002 10:47 AM
|A side effect of people here not understanding the circle of life and banning killing them, so their population grows and they have to forage more for food and people feed them because they look like "doggies".
Anyways, there have been stories about them attacking kids and mothers who try to save the kids. They don't just attack babies. Lots of stories about cats disappearing from neighborhoods too.
You can never tell...that bike pump may be handy...