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seven custom questions(12 posts)

seven custom questionsjakerider
Aug 13, 2002 4:25 AM
does anyone know if you can order a custon seven frame without going thru a
seven "authorized dealer"? I have e-mailed seven and have not received a response.
They offer a signature size frameset but I would like a to order a custom frame built up.
Anyone?
I highly doubt it...TJeanloz
Aug 13, 2002 4:57 AM
It might be possible if there is no Seven dealer anywhere near you. But if there is one within 100 miles or so, they will almost certainly insist that you go through the dealer.
I agree with TJeanloz......pa rider
Aug 13, 2002 7:54 AM
I tested road a seven this spring over by Pailo pennsylvania. Seven wants one of there dealers to fit you because they know the ins and outs of their builders angles.

I know that in the US they can find one near to you. I remember it took me a few days to get my e-mail response back from them when I asked them questions.

I asked Tom kellog the same question, when I asked him about his spectrum Ti bikes. He said he rather do a fit on me instead of taking someone else fit messurements to build me a bike.

Email seven again, in case they lost your email.

Emory
re: seven custom questionspaulw
Aug 13, 2002 5:33 AM
They want you to go through the dealer. The reason is that they want to the person to be put on a size cycle and they want a knowledgeable sales person to go through their questionaire with you. If you really want a custom sized frame for this much $, you're probably better off with the dealer anyway.

They might work with you if you really aren't close to a dealer though.
Plus ...pmf1
Aug 13, 2002 5:44 AM
If you're gonna spend that much money on a frame, don't you want a shop to professionally measure you, pamper you, and love you forever when you come back for minor repairs or spare parts? You're buying some goodwill here as well.

If the folks at Seven don't bother to respond to your e-mail, I'd think about buying something else. There are lots and lots of nice ti bikes out there.
yup...see this threadColnagoFE
Aug 13, 2002 5:55 AM
http://www.cyclingforum.com/forums/Thread.cfm?CFApp=2&Thread_ID=2739&mc=62

lots of horror stories about Seven not delivering "perfection" as promosed.
Frankly, I don't get Sevenpmf1
Aug 13, 2002 6:02 AM
Please flame away on me, but I don't get it.

They have this mystical appeal of some titanium wizards working out of their cutsey little shop in Mass and producing these wonder frames. I look at them in my LBS and they look like any other ti bike out there. How can they cost so damn much? Is welding titanium tubes together really that much of an art? Don't bigger guys like Litespeed have advantages in being able to do more with ti tubes (plus utilize 6/4 tubes)?

Of course, what do I know, I own a C-40, probably the most over-hyped bike in the world. I got it lots cheaper than what you'd pay for a Seven Odanta though.
welding titanium is difficult...cabinfever
Aug 13, 2002 9:32 AM
Or so I was told in my LBS. They said that Seven welds the tubes of each frame in a specific pattern. I forget the term they used, but it had to do with welding in a manner that eliminated any "warping" of the frame be applying heat to the tubes. Seven might elude to it on their web site, I'm not sure. I saw a Seven at the LBS, and the welds were smooth and gorgeous. Never have ridden one, but I was sporting wood just looking the thing over.
Frankly, I don't get SevenChainstay
Aug 13, 2002 6:48 PM
I don't think the weld aesthetics on the Sevens compares to the pre-Litespeed Merlins.
re: seven custom questionsEricBH
Aug 13, 2002 5:43 AM
I am researching a Seven. I have read in an article they do not deal directly with consumers.

I'm not sure what your issue is but, mine is basically that I like to build / maintain my own bikes and I can get a better deal shopping around online for components. If I go into a Seven dealer and say "I want to be sized for a Seven, buy my components elsewhere and build it myself", what are they going to get out of it?

Do I pay them for the fitting and ordering my frame?
There's a profit margin on the frame, don't worry (nm)TJeanloz
Aug 13, 2002 6:15 AM
My dealer was Excel...PsyDoc
Aug 13, 2002 6:27 AM
...which is about 1,650 miles from where I live. I knew what I wanted in a frame and ordered it through Excel to save about $250 in sales tax. I had Excel install the headset and the fork; I built up the rest. Seven will deal with you directly when it comes to going over your frame specs, but they will not sell to you directly.