|Connagi BiTitanio ??||flybyvine|
Aug 11, 2002 8:35 PM
|Does anyone have any feedback on this older frame ?
The LBS has a "new" 99 frame for sale that I am thinking of building up for my wife. They are asking for USD 1200 for the frame (steel fork).
|That should have been a "Colnago" BiTitanio||flybyvine|
Aug 11, 2002 8:36 PM
|It was a tough weekend...|
|That should have been a "Colnago" BiTitanio||JohnG|
Aug 11, 2002 9:12 PM
|hmmmmmmmm, the BT has a mixed rep for reliability. The early ones had cracking problems ...... although the late ones were fine. I have a riding bud who has one and he likes it...... although, he did just get a C40 to replace it.
Personally, I'd recommend a new CT1 frame with Flash fork which you can get for around $1500 + 4% duty from Maestro-uk dot com. IMHO, you would get a better frame/fork going that route. You can also get a Dream+ for $1K which would still be a better "deal" than an obsolete BT.
Just my opinion
Aug 12, 2002 10:23 AM
|Some of them are pretty nice, but Colnago abandoned the design for a reason. They had a rep. for cracking. 1200 seems a bit high for a 3 (really, at least 4 I'd guess) year old frame with a steel fork (not bad, but Colnago's heaviest and least expensive). Maybe the late ones are, as John G. says, improved. And maybe your wife is not the most likely soul to break the frame in any case. But I'd wonder.
I've done business with maestro and would recommend them--the CT1 if the extra $ is ok, maybe the dream + or master if it isn't. If you want to do business with the LBS, I'd look into home-grown steel over a potential problem--1200 bucks buys a pretty nice frame nowadays.
Aug 12, 2002 10:58 AM
|Not my Bititan. I agree with all that you typed, but not the 'heavy' part. My 58cm Bititan with Campy Record 10spd, Speeddream Wheels, Vittoria Corsa CX TT tires runs a tad over 16lbs. I'm not a weight weenie (at 185lbs I can't afford to be), the bike just kinda 'fell' together that way.
I rode my frame into a dog at 40mph, did a beautiful somersault (even the Russian judge gave me a "ten" on that one) and the frame came out unscathed - I couldn't say that for my wheels, my saddle or my body. The 'newer' frames are tough as nails.
I did replace the fork after the crash with a CF straight blade Time fork - was that what you referred to as the 'heaviest'??
And once again..$1200 is way too high. Paul
|I meant the fork(s).||djg|
Aug 12, 2002 12:13 PM
|I gather the steel fork that comes with the frame is the precisa, which I believe is Colnago's heaviest and least expensive fork so far as the current line-up is concerned. I'm not saying that it's a bad fork, or that a bike using the precisa will, overall, be heavy. Just that it's the budget forks option in the Colnago line.
Sorry if I was unclear.
|I ride a Bititan||PaulCL|
Aug 12, 2002 6:32 AM
|Great frame, but be careful. The previous poster was correct about the cracking of the downtubes at the bottom bracket. Ernesto fixed the problem, but the frames had the bad rep so he discontinued them. Now the real question...how can you tell if the frame you are looking at is the 'bad' kind. Easy.
The earlier models (prone to crack) have a round top tube. The re-engineered (fixed the problem) models have a diamond shaped top tube. I have a 1997 with a diamond top tube. Only one problem with your LBS: It is my understanding that 1997 was the last year the frames were produced. I could be wrong. Email Colnago at Colnago.com IMHO, I believe that $1200 is WAY too much for a 3 or more year old new frame. I bought my frame, with a headset/bottom bracket/seatpost/steel fork for $1275 in 1997. Offer the guy $800
I love my frame. Very light, very strong, very stiff. She will love it if you get it at the right price. Ask the LBS for me if he has a 58cm in his back room - I'll buy it from him. Paul
|Thanks for the feedback||flybyvine|
Aug 12, 2002 5:55 PM
|I though that 1200 was a bit steep. I can get a new "2nd tier" Ti frame (e.g. Airborne) for that so it would have to be a good ride. It does have the diamond top tube so I figure it is the newer design but with the problems I have had with my C40 and the lifetime warranty of some of the US manufacturers it doesn't look that great (and I'm not even American !!)
|What problems have you had with the C-40?||PaulCL|
Aug 13, 2002 5:29 AM
|Just curious. I mean, afterall, it is reverred as the 'ultimate frame'.|| |