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Dont you love it when little punks...(16 posts)

Dont you love it when little punks...cyclejim
Aug 9, 2002 2:52 PM
Do stupid things to people on bikes? Today while spinning back from my ride I turned to come down a side street about 2 minutes from my house, and noticed a couple of kids (maybe 17-18) hitting aluminum cans across the street, one pitching and one with a bat.

As I got closer, the punk pitching and I made eye contact and then I looked at the batter and also made eye contact. I assumed that since they saw me they would wait while I passed before continuing their fun, but alas I was unpleasantly surprised when I saw the pitcher wind up and pitch another can towards the batter who proceeded to crack one across the street, missing me by about 4 feet.

The idiot kid then turns to retrieve the can and sneers at me and then continues past to grab the can yelling... ahaha you missed him.

I just kept riding.....yea I could have reacted in all sorts of ways.... What is it about people riding bikes that makes people act so aggressively towards us?
Report themczardonic
Aug 9, 2002 3:02 PM
Happened to me two weeks back. Kids rolled a skateboard under my front wheel as I was passing by.

If someone doesn't scare some sense into these little thugs, there is a good chance that they will hurt someone someday.
geeze dude...dustin73
Aug 9, 2002 8:01 PM
what did you do? i would've taken that board and shoved it up his ass.

if someone gives me shit, i just pull up to them and get in their face. haven't lost day some dipshit on rusted bmx was like "haha....wanna race? hahahahaha..." i looked at him and said "yeah, come on." slowed up a little, then finished my 2 mi. lap. he was still there when i passed by again, and his bike was gone. i went to him and asked "i thought we were gonna race." he laughed...then i called him a p---y and left. i knew his family, and his sister is a couple grades younger than me...i wasn't too worried.
Want to effect real change?Ahimsa
Aug 9, 2002 3:16 PM
Find their parents and beat them to death. Then have the kids sterilized.

A (In a lovely mood today.)
even better report both to social workers nmcyclopathic
Aug 9, 2002 4:21 PM
so much for ahimsa then eh?collinsc
Aug 9, 2002 9:42 PM
jk. even gandhi would have to whoop on some of these dumbass kids.
this is what I don't understand...nova
Aug 10, 2002 3:18 AM
People (punks are people too) *blatantly* put your health and well-being at risk, and you do nothing?

Seems to be some sort of collective pacifist mindset which descends upon us as we saddle up our bikes. (Which isn't to confuse us with the agressive riders who are not serious about cycling).

If someone threatens you, not with words but with actions as in this case, the LEAST you can do is yell something and not perpetuate the notion that cyclists are easy targets.
I agree with you .....butcyclejim
Aug 10, 2002 9:22 AM
In fact not too long ago I swore to myself that I was going to get militant and if anyone messed with my while I was riding they were going to pay for it. But in the moment I just kept on riding... maybe its that there were two of them and they were bigger than me, maybe its that Im gonna be a dad in 6 weeks...maybe its because the incident occured less than a block from my house and I dont want to deal with reprisals.... who knows?
that makes sensenova
Aug 10, 2002 11:14 AM
Especially the soon-to-be-dad part. Congratulations!

You were there, so only you really know what was right. But my impression is that they were kids, right? They must have walked to where you encountered them, which makes them and their parents locals too. Which in turn would mean that you are likely to see them again. And given another set of similar circumstances, they have no reason to believe that there will be any consequences from harassing you or another cyclist again.

I struggle with "incrimentalism". If you let this one little thing go, then you gotta let this other little thing go... and so on and so on. Seems like the end result could be giving up riding altogether in order to avoid harassment. (and that includes all the "you are TOO thin!!" comments from friends and relatives! ;-)
thanks !cyclejim
Aug 10, 2002 12:26 PM
And I totally understand where you are coming from too. I can guarentee that NOTHING will ever stop me from riding, no matter what.

So I guess I am not the only one who gets the "you are TOO thin comments"?? Most people accuse me of not eating enough and I try to tell them you just dont understand!
Besides, revenge is a dish best served <u>cold</u>! -nmTig
Aug 10, 2002 1:56 PM
re: Dont you love it when little punks...aliensporebomb
Aug 10, 2002 7:02 AM
This happened to me yesterday. I'm not proud of how I reacted but I was surprised that my body was able to do what it did:

I had a very short time to do a ride this afternoon.
It was sort of horrible.

I literally feel kind of sick and empty just thinking about it.

Horrible because what appeared to be a 13-16 year old kid with a blonde
bowl haircut shouted out the passenger window of a blue Sunbird or
Pontiac or similar and shouted loudly:

[you know what 'blank' is no doubt, the 'effenheimer']

I didn't get to see the driver to see if it was an adult or another kid.

His words were abrupt, loud and ugly and I was shocked to hear them.
I've been yelled at by morons before but there was a ferocity and stupidity
behind them that just offended me.

You could tell he was one of those stupid types. Blank expression, his
mind not thinking just running stupid automatic thoughts filled in his
head taught by his idiot family.

Normally I blow off this kind of thing because they'll never learn,
this is ingrained behavior from years of observation of their own family.

But, for some reason my mind turned red with inchoate rage and I
shouted back in kind "BLANK YOU YOU BLANKHOLE". Totally NOT
like me, and it seemed to inspire on me a tidal wave of furious anger.

I don't feel proud of that, in fact, I was still full of rage, my mind must
have gone white hot because I started sprinting after their car.

I'm not sure what I thought I'd do if I caught up with them, probably give him an earful he'd never forget.

I actually was catching up with them (I thought they were slowing
to confront me) but no.

The look on his face that the bicyclist he swore was catching up was worth about $10 but still I was shaking with anger. You could see the guy panicking.

I looked at my max speed indicator on my bike computer: 36.8. Holy crap.
I've never done anything like that before, outracing traffic on a flat.

When they saw I was catching up they just pulled away faster and
I never saw them again. I tried to pull over to cool down but the more
I thought about it the more angry I became.

I then went on a ridiculous blast of speed and ended up doing 4.4 miles in
18 minutes. Over 21,100 feet went by in a blur. My anger raised when
my chain jumped the bike. I fixed it and redoubled my efforts.

Towards the end my anger petered out and I just felt like riding slowly
back home. My average dropped to 14.1 from somewhere in the mid

Needless to say, I'm sore now. I feel spent.

Next time an idiot says something like that I'll just ignore it. But for some reason, it just cut to the quick because I'd had limited time to ride tonight (less than 25 mins) and it was a nice day.

I'm glad I went on the ride but I'm not glad about the negative events that happened during it.

Ignorant idiots ..... they ruin a lot of peoples fun.
re: Dont you love it when little punks...nova
Aug 10, 2002 7:16 AM
You are human. Being angry is part of being alive, and expressing anger in a controlled manner is part of being healthy.

It's when you start bottling things up, or pretending that things don't get to you when they really do, or redirecting anger through another channel (like road rage) that you begin to turn into something that you don't want to be.

At some point you have to express yourself and make yourself heard.
re: Dont you love it when little punks...aliensporebomb
Aug 10, 2002 10:30 PM
I don't think he expected me to scream back at him nor to actually catch up.

I look at it now and go: that's so unlike me. But sometimes all it takes is the
wrong person saying the wrong thing.

I think next time I'll just laugh at them. Silly kids.
re: Dont you love it when little punks...Diamondback
Aug 10, 2002 8:56 AM
I had a similar experience with a punk like that. Problem for him was that I caught him at the next light. I am a little bigger than average, 5'11" 190, and I think I scared the piss out of him, because I pulled up right beside his passenger door and glared at him and told him to roll down his window. He was the passenger, so I was about 2 feet from his face. The morons actually went throught the red light and sped off. I did not know whether to be pissed at the driver or mad at myself for putting others in danger, besides myself when they ran the red light. I have a hard time letting these idiots on the road scream at me and then shrugging it off. Anger mgmt. may be needed, but I sure felt good for standing up for myself and other bike riders.
Most of the time, ...seyboro
Aug 10, 2002 3:38 PM
...we just wave at the little stoopids. Nothing pisses them off more than going through all that effort for nothing.