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Is 3.4 lbs heavy for a frame?(18 posts)

Is 3.4 lbs heavy for a frame?Psychler
Aug 9, 2002 11:33 AM
Just got my Dean El Diente...56cm...3.4 w/o fork...the next step up is about 3lbs...$800 more...any thoughts?
Spend the $800 on components/wheelssn69
Aug 9, 2002 11:39 AM
and lighten the bike that way.
Spend the $800 on components/wheelscogmaster
Aug 10, 2002 6:58 AM
I have a 58cm el diente with a frame weight of about 3.6lb, with Dura Ace components and AC wheelset, total bike weight is 17 lbs. For the money the el diente is a bargain and is much stiffer due to oversized tubing than comparable ti frames.
agreed...I've got the Culebrasn69
Aug 11, 2002 3:15 PM
is it worth $200 an ounce? nmmr_spin
Aug 9, 2002 11:40 AM
No...Gregory Taylor
Aug 9, 2002 11:47 AM
It's in the ballpark for similar quality Ti frames -- Lightspeed Tuscany, for example. With a decent parts pick and a normal wheelset you should get it in at about 18.5 lbs.

The bigger question is do you like it?
Quick Comparisons --Gregory Taylor
Aug 9, 2002 11:58 AM
From the Colorado Cyclist website -- advertised weights (so use with a grain of salt)

Lightspeed Tuscany (55cm) 3 lbs. 2 oz. $1705 (price includes an Uzo Comp fork)

Lightspeed Ultimate w/carbon seatstay (55cm) 3. lbs 2 oz. $2835 (price includes Uzo Comp fork)

I know that you didn't pay anywhere near that for your El Diente...
Yes, unless it is a track frame. (nm)onespeed
Aug 9, 2002 11:48 AM
Compared to what?MXL02
Aug 9, 2002 11:52 AM
What are you using it for? For racing where you are doing lots of climbs, probably. For recreational cruising, probably not. It also depends on how much you weigh...if >180, then 3.4lbs is fine.
Sounds great to me!Nessism
Aug 9, 2002 11:56 AM
I hate super light frames...or should I say super fragile frames?

3.4 lbs. sounds about right for a solid agressive type frame that will not wag around under you. Take away material and you will loose either stiffness and/or ruggedness.

How about some inof in the tube diameters they used? More specifically, what diameter of down tube and top tube? I want one and was leaning toward Dean.

No. Not at all. Very respectable weight.Sintesi
Aug 9, 2002 12:03 PM
Ultra light is about 2.3 Lbs and one can bring those frames down to 15 1/2Lbs or so. SO, what does that tell you? If weight is important you can get that bike plenty light.
My CT1 came in at 3.4 lbs, frame only (nm)CT5
Aug 9, 2002 12:06 PM
Lighter than my Eddy Merckx Team SCalansutton
Aug 9, 2002 1:04 PM
My team SC Size 45 (!) came in at 3.5lbs.
re:consider this...cyclejim
Aug 9, 2002 1:12 PM
The weight of your frame is only roughly 18% of the overall weight of the bike.....people obsess WAY too much about frame weight IMHO. Unless you are racing and at the top of the sport, or in the absolute best possible condition you can be and need that extra ooomph that .4 lbs will give you.... dont sweat it!
here's the solutionjulio
Aug 9, 2002 3:19 PM
If you want to keep your El Diente and carry 0.4 lbs less weight on your rides: take a dump before you go out, this is much cheaper than buying the Diente X-Lite for $600 more.
aluminum: yes. ti: average. steel: noweiwentg
Aug 9, 2002 5:01 PM
personally (and I weigh 117), I would say to heck with the extra weight. presumably you have a lighter bike you will send to face annihilation in criteriums.
any thoughts?bic
Aug 9, 2002 8:45 PM
Yea, why do you ask after you buy something?
re: Is 3.4 lbs heavy for a frame?flying
Aug 9, 2002 9:15 PM
3.4 lbs = 1542grams

My steel Colnago MXL 55cm c-t weighs 1574grams

I gotta say yes it feels a bit heavy on the long steep climbs compared to my pals light alum bikes. Althoug I run tubulars on nucleons & all chorus so I am still at 18.5 - 19 lbs.
Not bad but not 15-17 lb range either.

It depends on what you want out of it.
If light weight was your main concern why TI?

You can ride Orbea Starship at less than 1000 grams ;-)$1099 & it comes with a lifetime warranty.