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is there a trick(7 posts)

is there a trickpukka
Aug 9, 2002 6:17 AM
i want to replace my forks,mainly because they are scratched on my 56cm cannondale with some carbons from nashbar,i dont want to remove my forks before my new ones arrive how can i figure what length to by,i'm staying threaded 180-200-220 what points do i measure from
re: is there a trickstr8dum1
Aug 9, 2002 6:32 AM
measure from the race (bottom of headset) to the top of the headset.
re: is there a trickqui-gon jin
Aug 9, 2002 8:54 AM
Since you are changing forks, switch to threadless. It would not cost too much more to make the change and I think you would be happier with the threadless system. (Just a thought.)
just curious...Steve_0
Aug 9, 2002 9:25 AM
why would he be happier with threadless?
why would i be happierpukka
Aug 9, 2002 9:27 AM
someone once told me threadless is just an industry scam,what benefits would i get,i'm curious
the tyical repliesSteve_0
Aug 9, 2002 10:52 AM
1. More direct contact. (dont understand this one as I've never heard of anyone having 'slippage' problems with threaded)

2. Easier to swap bars (illogical for two reasons: 1) Many quills now have open faces and are therefore just as easy as threadless, and 2) with the exception of TTrialists, how often do you really swap bars?)

3. Lighter (is it really? By how much? what exactly are the performance benefits attributable to such a minscule savings?)

On the benefits side of quills, much more adjustable, easier to do so (single bolt), looks nicer (admitted opinion)

Be an individual; get the quill.
why would i be happierqui-gon jin
Aug 12, 2002 9:54 AM
Last year I bought my first road bike. It was an older Serotta and it had the threaded system. The stem that was on it was too short, so I had to find a new quill stem. That was the first problem with the quill system. Threaded systems are becoming obsolete. It took me a week to find a 140mm quill and they are expensive. Then I had to go and buy the 32mm wrench. I gave my 32 mm wrench away in the early nineties when mtn bikes switched.

In my oppinion, the benefits are more for mtn bikes than for road. The treadless system is a little lighter, more durable and easier to adjust. I had problems keeping my mtn bike threaded head set adjusted properly on rough rides, and who wants to carry a 32-36mm wrench with them? Going to threadless, you do loose the up and down adjustment of the quill, but times I had owned quill system I never changed the height.

The weight difference is probably 50+ grams, and some people spend hundreds of dollars to trim grams. If this is a bike you do not care about the threaded system is fine, but if you want to sale the bike in the future, the threadless parts and stems are everywhere. Would you be happier with the threadless system? My guess is you may not be. I see these types of discussions all the time. Roadies do not like change. Mtn bikes canged to threadless and 1 1/8" more than ten years ago and now over the past few years it is catching on to road. Mtn uses the convenient Camel Bak and roadies still use cages and bottles. Roadies think that the only good welds are done by US and Euro welders, so Asian frames suck, but the majority of them drive Asian cars... Threadless is a more simple system, everyone is using it now, and yes it is better. Any mountain biker can tell you that.