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A taste of how Armstrong feels?(25 posts)

A taste of how Armstrong feels?Humma Hah
Aug 8, 2002 2:33 PM
I'm likely the slowest rider in the forum, but sometimes things happen to make me reasonably happy with my state of fitness.

Where I work, we hire interns, and most of them come from France. Since I came aboard, I've been working with Olivier (O-live-ee-ay), 22 years old, and smokes like a chimney. He's not a cyclist, but he is about to head back to France, has sold his car, and I've loaned him a bike for a few weeks.

I am 49. Don't smoke.

We live in the same neighborhood, so I rode home with him last night. I had to slow down a couple of mph so he could keep up at first. I didn't rub it in, just gave friendly encouragement.

Later, we got to a couple of small hills and he tried to sprint past me. If there's one thing I'm good at, it is sprinting up little hills. Nailed him soundly each time. He's gasping for air like a fish, but I'm not even breathing hard.

I smile again, offer polite encouragement, but deep inside I'm really satisfied to be whupping a Frenchman less than half my age.
Yeah, but that is like beating aLazywriter
Aug 8, 2002 2:39 PM
retarded guy in chess. The kid smokes like a chimney, what would you expect? Now, as far as beating a frenchman, it would have been better if you just kicked him down the stairs. LOL
Yeah, but it still feels good ...Humma Hah
Aug 8, 2002 2:47 PM
Old age and clean lungs beat youth and cigarettes.

I did something similar a couple of years back, beating two young smokers up a hill in San Diego. Those I left stopped on the shoulder bent over their bars.

I'll take my little victories where I can. Mostly, it is a huge damnation of how bad cigarettes are, that they can make kids perform worse than old guys.
Yeah, but it still feels good ...capnjim01
Aug 8, 2002 2:52 PM
funny i was posting my first message as you posted your second and we said the same thing, about the victories. i guess with age comes wisdom.
Yeah, I hate to say itMel Erickson
Aug 8, 2002 2:53 PM
like my son. Thrashed him roundly mountain biking two years ago (47 and 21 at the time), but did it with kindness. He smokes, nuff said.
I'm just bustin your balls, good for youLazywriter
Aug 8, 2002 3:20 PM
I hate the French. I think they are more obnoxious than I am.
Shoot, I thought you WERE French... nmseyboro
Aug 8, 2002 4:00 PM
We surrender.....The French......NMbic
Aug 8, 2002 8:44 PM
The French will start WWIII by surrendering.(nm)gogene
Aug 8, 2002 9:14 PM
I hate the French too...spankdoggie
Aug 8, 2002 11:34 PM
On that we agree.
You are still a jackass.
I hate the French too...spankdoggie
Aug 8, 2002 11:34 PM

Where are you?


Aug 9, 2002 4:22 AM
Finally you inadvertantly admit that you miss me. I know you cannot live without me and you love when I am around. Text book puppy love, make fun of the ones you like as you did when you were in grade school. If you are looking for me to pull your hair and spank your ass, I am not into that. Sorry. :)
re: A taste of how Armstrong feels?capnjim01
Aug 8, 2002 2:49 PM
I'm hear you. you take your victories when you can.
That is satisfying :-) Maybe it will encourage...rwbadley
Aug 8, 2002 2:51 PM
our French friend to quit smoking, given that at such a young age he was getting hisself whupped by an ancient fossil such as yerself.

Lazy's suggestion of how to properly administer the beating was hilarious. I had to recover for several minutes before I could post, Thanks man.

A good story in UltracyclingDougSloan
Aug 8, 2002 3:26 PM
In the August 2001 issue of Ultracyling, John Marino recounted a story from back in 1978.

He wanted to set a transcontintal record. He could find no sponsors, but Peugeot offered to give him a test. The company people told Marino to contact a certain rider and ride with him, adn then they would decide.

He was nervous as all get out. On the day of the test, he met up with a Peugeot French rider all decked out in full team duds, and the team guy said they would go for a 60 mile ride up some mountain roads. Marino tried to act as nonchalant as he could.

As they rode up a big hill, Marino noticed that this "Tour" rider was having a hard time keeping up. Marino pressed hard and beat the rider to the top. He was on top of the world. Joyous.

10 minutes later the Peugeot guy made it up, too. At the top, he dismounted, reached into his jersey, pulled out a pack of cigarettes and lit up. Marino could not believe it. A racer smoking? How could a professional cyclist do this?

Marino asked how a professional team racer could smoke. He said, "I'm am not on the Peugeot Cycling Team. I'm a bike mechanic at the Carson warehouse. They asked me to go riding with some marathon cyclist and report back. Don't worry, I'll give you a good word."

Marino's head unswelled a few sizes, being first elated then brought back down to earth by the smoking mechanic.

Peugeot gave him two bikes and enough spares to open a bike shop.

Good story! (nm)Humma Hah
Aug 8, 2002 3:36 PM
Revenge of the Blue-HairedMe Dot Org
Aug 8, 2002 8:24 PM
I'm 51, and I used to have a beard that was salt-and-pepper. I shaved it off when it became more salt than pepper.

Lately I've had fantasies about growing it back, just so the weekend warriors will know it's an 'old guy' passing them.

Of course, I've never ridden a Century on a single speed. I doubt if you're the slowest rider in this forum!
never too late to quittarwheel
Aug 9, 2002 4:01 AM
A riding buddy of mine is 56 and can climb better than any of the guys we ride with. He just flies up the hills. We got to talking one day and he told me had quit smoking about 3 years ago, after 30+ years, and he was a heavy smoker too. Imagine what he could do if he had never smoked.
never too late to quitmlester
Aug 9, 2002 6:30 AM
I am 23, former smoker and I believe that I ride better now than I could've if I never smoked. Lance says that he rides so hard because after his tx he has a much different px threshold than anyone else...meaning he essentially just tells his body he doesn't feel it. Well, in the same respect I feel that my lungs have a different reference to px/full expansion and when I push, I can push even harder than I normally would to try to repair them faster.

re: A taste of how Armstrong feels?Snowbird
Aug 9, 2002 4:38 AM
Do you know why the French have those lovely tree - lined roads you see on the TDF? So the Germans won't have to march in the sun!
My father had to cut down some of those trees ...Humma Hah
Aug 9, 2002 6:00 AM
... so the C-47s could land to re-supply Patton.

My father liked the 200-year-old elms better than he liked Patton. He never forgave the general for that.
I'm 28, lean, non-smoker and got my ass......sidley
Aug 9, 2002 5:22 AM
whooped last summer by a fat, 53 yr old when we were tooling around Central Park. He must have weighed 240lbs, and was going a pretty good pace so I jumped on his wheel next thing I know he is absolutely killing me. We did 2 laps (12.6 miles) and he finally dropped me. I caught up to him (on his cool down) and demanded to know what the hell was going on. He chuckled and said "I did a little racing in my day. I was a ok Cat 2 racer, but that was like 25 years ago."

Full on humble pie, I went home thinking how many years I had ahead of me to bike.
Why are some smokers proud of being out of shape?TomS
Aug 9, 2002 6:58 AM
My wife works with a guy who's around 22-23 years old, smokes like crazy and eats at mcdonalds all the time. He refuses to take the stairs (they work on the 2nd floor, so it's only 1 flight), and is gasping for breath if they walk any faster than a super slow casual pace. Last month for some reason he went for a walk at lunch, about 45 minutes, came back all sweaty and breathing hard, and was sore the rest of the week.

The strange part is, he acts like he's proud of his condition! Like it makes him cool or something. I just don't get it...
I know exactly what you are saying. I find that peopleLazywriter
Aug 9, 2002 2:42 PM
like that actually look at me with contempt when I mention that I may have ridden 50 or so miles the day before. I also get a kick when the say I am insane for buying a $5000 bike when they easily spend more than that on cigarettes in a year and a half which is gonna kill them anyway. Does moron and idiot fit the description for these people????
I am not saying I am the most diligent with my diet in the winter but I don't drink or smoke or even drink coffee for that matter. Eat too many carbs all year round, that is about it, but I live a clean life. But I know a lot of smokers and drinkers that get angry when nonsmokers leave the area when they smoke. I really get pissed off when these people sue cigarette companies because they know what they do to you but scumbag lawyers come up with their BS suits. They wind up costing taxpayers when they are on Medicare and need all kinds of care when it all catches up to them. Morons
I know that feelingPhatMatt
Aug 9, 2002 10:01 AM
Let me start by saying I suck at climbing, and use to be the slowest. I have been promoted to the second to slowest in my little group. But on the one cannyon we climb I nalied this guy we ride with from time to time taht was just talking serious shit. Dam it felt good at the top even though I could hardly get off the bike to get liquid for a few minutes.