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Is Kirk O'Bee guilty?????(3 posts)

Is Kirk O'Bee guilty?????Landsharkrider
Aug 7, 2002 11:22 AM
I don't know if there is anybody that can definitively give the answer on this, but I'm a little confused by the situation (which always seems to be the case in something like this).

So the news recently is that he had too high of a testosterone level and was suspended. But then the story is that he naturally has a very high level and has been trying to document this for the UCI. Then he says it must have been from some supplements his coach had him on. Then his team dumps him but puts out a press release saying that because of the contract they have no choice - but make it sound like they didn't want to. Anybody else lost?

Every time that somebody tests over the limit for something, there seems to be some fairly plausible excuse ready and waiting. I don't mean "the EPO was for my dog" but the O'bee type of thing where you don't know who to believe.

Anybody else have any thoughts?
Blame the damn dog...or Grandma's exotic cookies..nmeschelon
Aug 7, 2002 12:21 PM
his testosterone levelspeloton
Aug 7, 2002 6:33 PM
O'Bee got tested for his own levels of testosterone shortly after his suspension, and the released results were that his testosterone levels were in the 'low to average' range for a male of his age. This could be right in line with someone who is taking an exogenous testosterone source. Taking in testosterone from an outside (exogenous) source would make your endogenous (naturally occuring) levels drop to below normal ranges. Ken Caminiti (the 96 baseball MVP) stated in a recent SI article that his endogenous testosterone levels were 20% of what they should have been when he was taking large amounts of anabolic steriods. If O'Bee isn't taking anything then his testosterone to epitestosterone levels could help to straighten things out. Taking in an exogenous source will screw these ratios up. I would imagine his smart move would be to show us that these are in line if he is innocent. Santiago Botero did this a few years back. It would seem to me though that his levels wouldn't have dropped to 'below average to average' levels if they were naturally high shortly before. This drop off is typical in individuals who have recently discontinued products meant to boost testosterone levels. It takes a while for natural levels to get back to normal after the discontinuation of AAS or testosterone.

I can't imagine what his coach could have given him that would boost testosterone levels that isn't an anabolic? The Navigators have been busted a couple of times in the past couple of years. I also don't understand why he would put things straight with his epitestosterone to testosterone levels. Why has the story changed from a statement of naturally high levels to low levels? There are a lot of questions that should be answered. I would like to see he is innocent, but I don't have a good feeling about it.