|Locking bike wall mount||Bill RHIT|
Aug 7, 2002 7:32 AM
Have any of you ever seen a wall mount for your garage in which you can lock you bike onto. I am moving into a new condo and I have a garage, but it is only semi private. So I want to mount my bike in there, but I will only do it if I can lock it down. Do you guys have any suggestions? TIA.
|Delta Bike Hitch Pro||Poulidor|
Aug 7, 2002 8:07 AM
|Delta makes the Bike Hitch Pro front fork hitch (on sale at Nashbar for $12.95) that can be bolted to a 2x4. It is usually used in the bed of a pickup or in the back of a van or SUV. But if you mount it on a 2x4 and secure that to the wall, you could remove your front wheel, stand up the bike and attach the front fork to the hitch (much like you would with vertical bike stands). This bike hitch has a hole in the quick release lever that allows you to put a padlock through it, when it is in the locked position. Admittedly, this won't stop a really determined thief, but it would be about as safe as a locked bike on a car bike rack.|
|re: Locking bike wall mount||Rob March|
Aug 7, 2002 8:13 AM
|It's not a wall mount, but my plans for when I get my new bike (first road bike - 2003 Specialized Allez Elite) are to put an eyebolt directly into the garage floor, and lock up the bike using cables. I figure any determined thief will be able to get the bike, but just want a deterrent.
P.S. Anyone care to comment on my bike selection? I picked it out after quite a long time spent in my LBS, sizing, test riding, and dealing with price issues.
|doesnt even need to be determined...||Steve_0|
Aug 7, 2002 8:19 AM
|I lost my beach cruiser that way...30 seconds of unscrewing will result in a free bike; No tools even necessary.
Same for the above 2X4 method.... if there's any exposed hardware, its gonna be a snatch to steal.
Id look for a rack w/out exposed hardware. Dont know if any exist.
|doesnt even need to be determined...||Rob March|
Aug 7, 2002 8:27 AM
|I had been planning to mount the bolt into the concrete using grouting (or some other more robust method), not just screw it into the floor. Do you think that would still be insufficient?
|More robust method||Ahimsa|
Aug 7, 2002 8:53 AM
|Why not simply set a loop of steel into a heavy chunk of poured concrete? You could build a simple form and mix it up yourself right on the spot. Maybe a loop run thru rebar and set in a 2x2x1 ft block.
If it is too heavy to lift, then it should be fine, and no unscrewing is possible. This model seems to be common in parks and outdoor lock ups, I think a DIY version would be just as effective with appropriate locks.
|Id concrete it in, at minimum....||Steve_0|
Aug 7, 2002 10:59 AM
|for that matter, invest in a krypto NYC chain, and concrete it into the floor. Probaby the safest bet.
Yes, my bolt was screwed into the concrete.
Aug 7, 2002 12:38 PM
|First of all, I think that the safest thing you can do with your bike is to keep it out of sight.
Second, any locking device that one man can dream up, another guy will dream up a way to defeat. An elaborate locking device alerts thieves that this is a valuable bike that is worth stealing. If you park your bike in the same place regularly, given enough time, the thief has the edge. A semi-private garage is also semi-secluded. That means the thief has more time to do his work. If I were the thief, I wouldn't touch anything the first time, I'd just take a good look at your locking device and figure out what I needed to bring to break it.
The professional bike thief's tool of choice is the big bolt cutter. He doesn't have to cut the lock, he can cut your chain or any hardware that looks easy. If it was me, I'd concentrate on the hardware store eyebolts or whatever.
If you keep your locks and chains and cables up off of the ground, it makes them harder to cut with a bolt cutter. Stuff close to the ground means I can brace one arm of my bolt cutter on the floor and put all of my weight on the other arm.
|doesnt even need to be determined...||Poulidor|
Aug 7, 2002 8:33 AM
|The hitch rack and the 2x4 can be mounted with security screws that can only be turned clockwise but cannot be unscrewed.
|What ya need to do||Ahimsa|
Aug 7, 2002 8:45 AM
|is lock the bikes up together in such a way that even if they were to remove the wall mount hardware, they'd still be left with a rack locked through two or more bikes.
Rather unwieldy if you ask me.
Besides, a truly determined thief is gonna go with the easiest steal, not the hardest. I'd rather they took one look at my bike lock up and decided instead to go with the lawnmower.
Mostly as far as garage thefts go, I think it would be opportunists (you leave the door open overnight on accident) or bored kids with an interest in mischief. Both of these types are not going to spend too much time screwing around with a well thought out lock up.
I have a wall mounted version in mind for bikes hung upright by the front wheel with those vinyl coated hooks.
I plan on lag bolting the whole rack to a concrete wall about six times and then setting heavy eyelets into the two-bys between each bike and at the ends. Then ya run a thick piece of stock steel bar or heavy pipe thru the eyelets and the frames. Lock this on both ends with good padlocks that won't fit through the eyelets and voila. They couldn't turn the eyelets to pull 'em out due to the bar, and the bar would flex or bend if they tried to smash the locks off.
They could undo all the lag bolts and then saw through the wood frame to seperate each bike, but I doubt they could get it off the wall and set it up to do so.
Only other option is cutting the bar, so lock up your hacksaw too. I figure if they have their own saw with 'em, try to cut through it and manage to finish, they prolly deserve the bikes. ( ;
As an alternate, the bikes could be locked w/ a U bolt to the bar, locked by U bolts through the eyelets themselves, or the whole thing could be mounted to the floor instead of the wall. There are a million variations.
Degrees of difficulty and multiple bikes are the key components.
When I get around to this final design and build I'll post a pic or two.