Aug 6, 2002 3:09 PM
|Who has first hand knowledge of Foco or UltraFoco steel frames? How do they compare in weight, price, feel to other high end steel frames or titanium?
Which manufacturers use it?
|re: Foco Steel||merckx56|
Aug 6, 2002 5:04 PM
|I have a Look AC353 foco frame and really like it! It rides a bit more harshly than my steel merckx, but then again the merckx is almost waterpipe! My bike is a 57cm with an all carbon Look HSC3 fork and dura-ace and weighs right at 18 lbs. A couple of guys in town have ultrafoco Dean frames and seem to like them. To be honest, there isn't a whole lot of difference between the two tubings. Foco drops to .4 mm wall thickness and ultra drops to .38!
What's .02mm betwween friends? The tensile strengths are almost the same as well. Go to Columbus' website for all the poop!
Overall, I think that lightweight steel is the way to go, but I have no illusions to think that this bike (the Look) will last more than a few seasons under my 180 lbs.
Dean makes really nice frames at very reasonable prices. I think it would be fair to compare Dean's craftmanship to ANY high-end steel manufacturer out there! It'll be my next rig!
Aug 6, 2002 7:14 PM
|Foco also uses thicker butts than Ultra Foco - .65 mm vs. .5 mm. Darn thin to be sure.
One good thing about Ultra Foco is that the tube diameters are large which should help stiffness quite a bit.
|re: Foco Steel||outacontrol|
Aug 6, 2002 5:13 PM
|Here is some info on Foco from Columbus, Strong Racing also has some info on steel. Reading the Columbus info Foco is actually Thermacrom which Cervelo uses in their steel frames. Guru and Strong both use Foco or Ultra Foco and there are others I just can't think of them right now. As far as pricing it can vary.