|Looking to buy||Ka nui Kahuna|
Aug 5, 2002 4:53 PM
|Recently my grandmother died and I inherited some money that I was told by my father to continue a sort of tradition by buying something that would last forever and would be bought as a memory of her. So the point is i am looking for something that i can have for a long time (i'm 99% sure i'm done growing (ps i'm 18) ) and because i have about $2000 to spend i'm looking to get the best FRAME i can buy for the money. All i'm looking to get is a frame. I figure with 2000 i can get a pretty nice frame...but i want the lowest weight i can get and the highest quality build i can get...
i hope this doesnt open up a can of worms on the messsge board...i'm just looking for some honest recommendations.
and just for the record i was at the bike shop the other day and i saw a seven cycles frame that tickled my fancy a little bit...
thanks everyone in advance,
Aug 5, 2002 4:59 PM
|I say get the Seven, it should last.
But....you must name the built up bike after your dear Grannie. That is the right thing to do.
What's her name?
A. (BTW, you Hawaiian?)
|Biased answer - LS Vortex||Kerry|
Aug 5, 2002 5:31 PM
|Some think they are too "common" but this is the only shaped, swaged, tapered, butted, 6/4 frame on the market. Seven & co. have no magic mojo over the Vortex. It will last forever, and the odds are that LS will be in business long after Seven is gone. Like I said, a biased answer.|
|That bias is a good one.||Lazywriter|
Aug 5, 2002 5:46 PM
|I considered the Seven Axiom and test rode it several times and it felt no different than my Litespeed Classic that I have been riding for almost 7 years now.
I took the Vortex out and knew immediately that it was a faster "feeling" bike. Nothing wrong at all with the 7 though, very nice ride, but it just didn't wow me after riding ti for so many years.
A lot of guys who get on ti bikes after riding aluminum, or steel for many years and buy a 7 or Serotta claim it is so much superior to LS really have no frame of reference. When you ride exclusively ti frames for so long you notice the little differences between ti frames much more. The Vortex is very sophisticated and high tech compared to the Seven.
As far as the welds and all that bullsh%$ that LS is lesser quality blah blah blah, that is pure specualtion. LS is yet to see a Vortex frame fail at the seams. Ti frames if they fail will do so at the joints and if it doesn't in the first month of normal riding, odds are you have a solidly welded frame that will last a lifetime.
I agree that LS will be around for a long long time and the only reason people dislike them so much is that they are so popular. When I got my Classic 7 years ago, LS was the ti frame to own and now that they proliferated, people latch onto the smaller more obscure companies as if they are the second coming of christ. For all those who plan to bash, blow me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|Custom steel or Ti frame.||MXL02|
Aug 5, 2002 5:46 PM
|I don't know if you can get one for $2000, but it will last a lifetime. Seven, Davidson, Steelman, Serotta, Pegoretti. If ready-made is all you need, the list gets even longer. The only other frame I might consider is a Calfee Luna. It is carbon but it does have a 25 year guarantee.|| |