|Scenerio: What if? "NASA" designed the Ultimate RD BIKE.||0_Kewl|
Aug 5, 2002 6:42 AM
|You read/know how Colnago, Serrotta, Pernello etc.. have Italian Tradition. Trek/Cannondale are the U.S. Corporate RD Bike Powerhouses. Sure all these companys have access to most of the lastest materials, CAD's etc. All are successful in their own right.
What if "NASA" hired a few of the top designers from these companies and let them have access to everything Nasa has. Nasa has access to rare/space age polymers, metals, composite materials etc. Sure the Aluminum and Steel or TI used by the companies above are all of Top Quality, but the Aluminum, Steel or Ti Nasa uses or has access to; are the best money can buy or make. Just think using NASA engineering with input from the top rd bikes engineers/designers would make one hell of a bike I think. They have all the super computers, wind tunnels, advance r&d, laser surfacing/molding techniques etc.. For example: They could make a seamless/unwelded frame, just mold the frame 1 piece and have the internal hardpoints built internal into the inside of the frame hidden.
Give your input and opinions; on what else RD Bike designers working with NASA engineers, would be able to do with a rd bike with NASA's vast resources.
Aug 5, 2002 7:06 AM
|Here at Honeywell we use CNC lasers to do all of our welding. We also don't use rods, but powders because so we can weld at lower temps and therefor have a smaller heat effect zone. The only problem is that this is all proprietary, so we can't show the bike manufactures how do do it. But if they could, image how much lighter the bikes would be because you wouldn't have to butt the tubes for joints to near the thickness they do now. Also, all frames would be made custom, with no adjustable seat tube. That would save over 100grams right there. Handlebar, stem, and steerer would all be integrated into one unit, shaving another 100 grams. Computer harnesses would be integrated into the bikes for and chainstays and into the frame, so all you'd have to do is insert your favorite computer. Pedals would be integrated into the crank arms themselves.
The bike would look normal from 10 feet, but up close is where you'd see the difference. Start with the Cannondale CAAD7 and integrate pedals, make the stem/handlebar/shifters all one unit, and integrate seat tube to the bike. You loose flexibility in parts, but you would loose a pound off the bike I'd say.
|good points, but don't forget redundancy nm||DougSloan|
Aug 5, 2002 10:37 AM
|It'd still be the motor. nm||Spoke Wrench|
Aug 5, 2002 7:07 AM
|they would name it Challenger||cyclopathic|
Aug 5, 2002 7:14 AM
|Isn't this what Bob Parlee is doing?||AllisonHayes|
Aug 5, 2002 7:40 AM
i They already use the same stress analysis and design software that aerospace companies use. They also use the same titanium and graphite/epoxy materials that have revolutionized the weight and performance of aircraft and spacecraft structures. So how is Parlee Cycles different?
i Parlee Cycles made a strategic decision to partner with KaZaK Composites, an innovator in the design and fabrication of high performance aerospace composites. KaZaK is run by a group of MIT engineers with over 80 years of combined experience in the aircraft, missile, sporting goods, and biking industries. This association ensures that ZED is always at the leading edge of composite design and manufacturing.
i Parlee Cycles/KaZaK engineers are aerospace designers as well as bike racers. Our computer analysis is done by the same guys who wrote the code that analyzed the Stealth Bomber structural design. Parlee Cycles fabrication technology is supported by the same composite manufacturing engineers that made all the composite structures for the largest truss frame system ever developed (bikes are truss frames, too), a 200 foot long structure used during a January 2000 Space Shuttle Mission.
|Isn't this what Bob Parlee is doing?||legs|
Aug 5, 2002 8:05 AM
I want--i want to ride parlee but i have never seen one in the flesh...
|That's probably because of the stealth technology.||Spoke Wrench|
Aug 5, 2002 8:13 AM
|You've undoubtedly been passed by one many times, but havn't been able to see it. Maybe the reason Lance doesn't need to use chemical enhancements because he drafts behind a Parlee which is undetectable.|
|LOL...Which explains the sudden rise in the Area 51||AllisonHayes|
Aug 5, 2002 8:48 AM
|Bob Parlee sightings... |
There is much circumstantial evidence to link Bop Parlee with (at the very least) experimental high-Mach vehicles. It has even been claimed that a new derivative of stealth aerospace technology has been developed, known as the Super Valkyrie. Evidence from Area 51 base-watchers and elsewhere also suggests other top-secret Bob Parlee cycle testing has been taking place, including:
- High Altitude Stealth TDF Training: a subsonic long-endurance cycle jointly developed by Bob Parlee, Lance Armstrong and Lockheed to provide superior drafting for the USPS team.
- Covert Assault Transport: a delta configuration with advanced integrated headset with very low noise as well as radar signature. Used primarily for assault on Mt. Ventoux. Reportedly has some kinks to be worked out.
- Stealth Time Trial Bike: Different designs with emphasis on low blade and air ground disturbance as well as new technology to reduce efflux signature. Designed to break Boardman's world record. Expect it to be unveiled within the next two years.
- Cloaking Technology: Cloaking technology in the form of electrochromatic carbon fiber layers integrated into a super stealthy weave. The only signature is a rush of wind as it passes you on the road. This explains the sudden rush of eerie stories by Ahisma as he feels he is being pursued in his dreams.
Recently, a new theory which is of a very good basis has risen which gives an idea as to the glowing objects seen above Area 51. Top researcher, Mr. Spoke Wrench has mentioned his theory that the objects moving at incredible speeds with sudden directional changes, emitting an unusual glow, could in fact be the result of experimental proton beam systems Bob Parlee and NASA are co-developing.
|also maybe why LA||markmark|
Aug 5, 2002 9:04 AM
|does not use drugs...alien power systems involving electro-magnetic energy! May be they ought to run a magno-meter over his bikes..
but Lance probably does not need any extra power sources, he has Roberto already!
|Allison, Spoke Wrench Sshhh!! Dun give away all our sekrets!!||0_Kewl|
Aug 5, 2002 10:45 AM
|Da enemy may be trolling the boards. We dun want them to know; that Lance has a minature "reactor" running his body. Of course we have disguised it well. To the average person it is called the "heart". To us in the know how, we know better. ;-) Da sekret is out.|
|Because drafting at 20 km/h helps so much!||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
Aug 5, 2002 3:17 PM
|Although if you attached a motor to the stealth bike... hmmmm!
|It would cost millions of dollars. . .||js5280|
Aug 5, 2002 8:26 AM
|. . .could only be ridden when the temp is between 50 and 88 degrees, relative humidity less than 76%, and in winds less than 15 mph. It would be incredibly reliable in those conditions though. However, even riding this bike, Lance would still smoke me even if he were riding a Big Wheel ;-)|
Aug 5, 2002 8:30 AM
|Build a bike frame using Nano Technology.
A frame's tubes would probably be less than a diameter of a pencil and total frame weight would be less than your cell phone.
|Probably look something like this:||MXL02|
Aug 5, 2002 10:22 AM
|They'd screw up the conversion factors and crash it into mars..||julio|
Aug 5, 2002 11:09 AM