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NYC race(41 posts)

NYC racefeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:00 PM
Shot of you know who.
cheetahfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:02 PM
Quaranta, who didn't finish.
Great pic . . . is his leg really that straight?soup
Aug 5, 2002 10:06 AM
I've been thinking about position/saddle height. Is Ivan really as high as he looks? What happened to a little bend at dead bottom?

soup
Great pic . . . is his leg really that straight?feathers mcgraw
Aug 5, 2002 10:32 AM
I think he's just bracing his weight while cornering, not pedaling.
another of Lancefeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:05 PM
Antonio Cruzfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:16 PM
Cruz, who was in the break that lasted about 40 of 50 laps.
re: NYC racegs6769
Aug 4, 2002 2:18 PM
Some excellent work here! When Graham Watson calls it quits, you're the guy.
I'm blushingfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 4:46 PM
Like I said, I'm a still life photographer, so this is a rare excursion into action photography. It seems like a dream job, but I'd hate to sit on the back of a motorcycle for five hours, contorting my body to get a good angle.
The breakfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:20 PM
Including McCormack, Vogels, etc.
Channfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:24 PM
Great stuff, what camera you using? nmafrican
Aug 4, 2002 2:28 PM
What did you shoot with?Pecos
Aug 4, 2002 2:26 PM
I have a Canon Digital Elf which is good for stills and family shots, but not that great for fast action.
What did you shoot with?african
Aug 4, 2002 2:30 PM
I have the same camera, s 300 power shot. Could I take nice pics like that with my camera??
What did you shoot with?feathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:32 PM
A Nikon D1X, which is a pro level camera (I'm a pro photographer, though I'm a still life photographer). It's amazing because it doesn't have a shutter delay, and you can fire off lots of shots without waiting for the card to write. I wish I had shots of the finish, but I had to watch it on OLN's commentary monitors. Paul Sherwen got excited in the end and blocked our view of the little monitor.
Ooo! A $4k camera. No wonder your shots look ...Pecos
Aug 4, 2002 2:47 PM
crisper than mine. I hope the prices on quality digital cameras comes down soon. I haven't used my SLR in a few years.
Ooo! A $4k camera. No wonder your shots look ...feathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:58 PM
My first foray into pro digital cameras cost twice as much and was a piece of crap in comparison. That was four years ago. Hopefully there'll be incredible $2k cameras in a couple of years.
Hey Feathers you have to admit as a Pro that ..Pecos
Aug 4, 2002 3:09 PM
my composition is at least worth an A as the flag, centered in the background, shines down on both US Champions as they cruise by in tandem ;O)
ok. nmfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 3:20 PM
Another onefeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:35 PM
I dunno why, but I have lots of this one particular guy.
againfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:45 PM
Martyfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 2:55 PM
He was fifth wheel coming into the sprint. Don't know what happened, still watching the video.
Marty's problem in the sprintTig
Aug 4, 2002 3:19 PM
He was interviewed and said that he almost touched a barricade and had to tap his brakes. He went on to say that in a sprint when you touch your brakes, you can end up in 20th place instantly. Too bad. I was hoping he could have won.
Marty's problem in the sprintfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 4:01 PM
Just saw the tape. Looked like he was a decoy and was actually leading out Davidenko. Marty swung out real wide when he finished his leadout, and eventual winner Dominguez had to swerve around him, barely clipping Davidenko at the line. The coverage was less than ideal and I didn't spot him near a barricade.
What kind of colnago and boy are they leaning!! nmafrican
Aug 4, 2002 6:24 PM
What kind of colnago and boy are they leaning!! nmfeathers mcgraw
Aug 4, 2002 6:36 PM
I'm not a Colnago freak, so you'll have to judge for yourself. When we were cruising the pits we did notice that every Navigator rider had a different frame. Some had C-40's, one had an aluminum (I think) Dream, and some had ti bikes with the B-stay. Here's a closeup.
They're mosty CT1's ....... nmJohnG
Aug 4, 2002 9:25 PM
Either the CT-1 or C40...both come in the TM10 color scheme..kapalua
Aug 5, 2002 5:03 AM
Mine sucks in comparison, but here it is any way....tronracer
Aug 4, 2002 6:36 PM
Who won the race by the way?
That's a great shot! Looks like you were right next to me...jtferraro
Aug 4, 2002 6:43 PM
Were you in that box, in the center where you could see them coming and going?

-Jeff
Yup, I was there.....tronracer
Aug 4, 2002 6:55 PM
I kept running back and forth taking pictures. Who's this guy?
Yup, I was there.....Pecos
Aug 4, 2002 7:12 PM
#24 is Ciaran Power leading Vassili Davidenko.
re: NYC racetaar44
Aug 4, 2002 6:43 PM
The coverage on OLN was horrible. Bad producing led to errant switching of cameras and an obsession with showing channel 7 personnel. I guess this is what happens when you use bass fishing producers to cover a road race!!
I can appreciate what you've done!fracisco
Aug 4, 2002 8:32 PM
I went out to my local crit practice last Tuesday to check it out, and shoot some film that was getting old. It is tougher than it looks, especially with my equipment that is geared towards stationary objects (manual focus, but a motor drive). I took all black and white, and about 1/3rd of what I took I think is acceptable.

This week I'll be riding. But there is a big race in town next week (Manhattan Beach Grand Prix), so I'll stock up on some color film and see if I can get some shots of my friends.
I can appreciate what you've done!feathers mcgraw
Aug 5, 2002 3:54 AM
I was using slower shutter speeds to get more of a blur (1/30 to 1/60), and most of the shots are useless. I think my success rate was about 1 in 10. That's the great thing about shooting digitally--the mistakes are free.
I can appreciate what you've done!fracisco
Aug 5, 2002 7:35 AM
And with a D1X, you can have a big IBM harddrive in there, and shoot lots and lots of the highest quality resolution.
WOW! NICE pic!!! This is professional quality...thanks.kapalua
Aug 5, 2002 4:56 AM
How many rolls did you shoot? (more questions enclosed)Kristin
Aug 5, 2002 10:29 AM
What film? Any tips for me? I'll be shooting off a couple rolls at the Downers Grove crit in two weeks.

Oh, I agree regarding digital. I'm saving up my money and will be ready to pounce as soon as the build the first fully manual digital SLR with changable lenses. Do you think there's any chance that Nikon will be nice and make it compatable with their current lenses? Probably too much to hope for. Anyway, nice images. Thanks for sharing. I hope I do half as well.
How many rolls did you shoot? (more questions enclosed)feathers mcgraw
Aug 5, 2002 10:40 AM
The D1X is an SLR, using the same lenses as Nikon film cameras. Nikon's always been good about not making lenses obsolete. You can use manual focus lenses on their new cameras. Definitely check out the D1X as a rental, it'll be well worth the cost once you factor in film and processing, not to mention scanning. I wanted 'artier' shots with lots of blur, so I shot a lot at about 1/60. To have a higher success rate I'd go to 1/250 to 1/1000. One thing I wish I could have done was get a nice position at the inside of a turn so I could have shot them close up with a wide angle lens. At that distance a fill flash would have been great, too.
Couldn't you get beat up for that?Kristin
Aug 5, 2002 11:36 AM
I'd be nervous about shooting off a flash 10 inches from a riders face while he corners at 28 MPH? Then again, it could be fun if you have a friend properly positioned to capature the subsequent crash.

I was talking to someone last week who was saying that you could not yet interchange lenses on the Nikon's digital cameras. I guess he was talking about not being able to use auto focus lenses. I think I'll still wait a bit for the price to come down and for AF to become available. I can't decide what to buy next. First good macro lense for the Canon, digital Nikon or first medium format camera. Limited resources, unlimited options.
Couldn't you get beat up for that?feathers mcgraw
Aug 5, 2002 11:46 AM
Hmm. Good question. In broad daylight a fill flash wouldn't be strong enough to be too upsetting. Your pupils would be very constricted. A lot of the better cycling shots have fill flash, typically from a motorbike. You can tell when the nearest rider has detail in the shadow areas of his face, while all the others have pitch black shadows.

You can use any Nikon lens on the D1X. The autofocus is amazingly fast. I was able to track the riders very well. The price is pretty high, though it paid for itself in a month. That's why I suggested a rental.

One last suggestion. How about extension tubes instead of a macro lens? Any more questions?
Hot Topicthe bird
Aug 8, 2002 5:06 PM
Got a pic of this feller rideing the same bike I do!!! (lets be nice now)